unknowable at some level? yeah. i think that s right. some of those details you re describing really are truly mind-boggling, shocking. and on a subject we re pretty numb to at this point. you re right that a woman shooter being involved is pretty rare. there was one other case recently last year, the alleged right-wing couple who shot some police in las vegas. but this appears to be a very different kind of case. and there are so many kind of ways that this problem seems to morph now that yes, i think it is ultimately very hard to know what the motivation was in any kind of clear sense because i think frankly it s a number of things in many of these cases. you have this combination of ideology, of deep-seated grievance, of mental health issues in a lot of these cases. it s very hard to pin down in a lot of ways. and i think this case epitomizes that problem.
what the motivation was in any kind of clear sense because i think frankly it s a number of things in many of these cases. you have this combination of ideology, of deep-seated grievance, of mental health issues in a lot of these cases. it s very hard to pin down in a lot of ways. and i think this case epitomizes that problem. and steve, to me that spells a kind of caution for anyone looking to make policy pronouncements on this across the political spectrum. i mean, obviously there are different ways people are thinking about this in terms of gun safety. but from a sort of counterterrorism perspective we re going to start to see receiptric heat up on that. what are you looking for in the debate to follow? well, i m worried about the debate that follows. i m worried about some of the things we ve heard. just the other day donald trump talked about bombing the families of people we re fighting in isis. we have some candidates out there talking about returning to
kicked out of a meeting. it could be. but to be able to do that, to come back, that would be a revenge motive. and a deep seated revenge motive, to come back and shoot all these people, you know, and to get others to help you. like i say, you could have family members. we could all site a few cases where people, multiple actors have done this. so it s not out of the realm of possibility. it s just more the unusual. by the way, how do they get the masks, the masks? yeah, the masks. and the full ballistic outfit and the rifles, you know. circling back around to see the crime scene maybe and they re still in the neighborhood there is a whole lot of moving pieces to this that we just don t know. the chief may clear up some of those, chris, in the next few minutes. but always the most interesting thing on these is motive, the human mind. what makes people want to do these things. and we all want to study them to see that we can stop them.
balance, the moms who don t have health care and are working i understand that. we don t call them hard workers. we call them failures. that s really what you do. that s really unfair. you as a party. the republican party. let me ask you. who call as hard-working mom a failure? who calls a stay-at-home mom a failure? usually it s the left that mocks and ridicules and belittles people who make a choice to stay home to raise their children. that s the hardest job ever. and another thing, i m sorry. but i think you have some sort of a problem, a deep-seated problem somewhere where you re putting a picture of slaves on your wall to remind you that that s hard work. that should remind you of slavery, of something really, really bad. that s not hard work. that s slavery. you raise an interesting point. this is the same work who worked she s gone to some weird
balance, the moms who don t have health care and are working i understand that. we don t call them hard workers. we call them failures. that s really what you do. that s really unfair. you as a party. the republican party. let me ask you. who call as hard-working mom a failure? who calls a stay-at-home mom a failure? usually it s the left that mocks and ridicules and belittles people who make a choice to stay home to raise their children. that s the hardest job ever. and another thing, i m sorry. but i think you have some sort of a problem, a deep-seated problem somewhere where you re putting a picture of slaves on your wall to remind you that that s hard work. that should remind you of slavery, of something really, really bad. that s not hard work. that s slavery. you raise an interesting point. this is the same work who worked she s gone to some weird