see a reorienting and that the less serious people fall back and the more serious people come forward? if you design donald trump as less serious, i think he s unique in the regard that he has no experience, he has said things that are wildly inaccurate, and yet he has a solid base of support within this process thus far that has been part immediate wmedia-fuel. the kardashian candidate, as bob was saying during the commercial break. he does have a broad, deep popularity, even though those of us who have dealt with him in the past know what he s really like. when you get away from new york, where if he s at the u.s. open he gets roundly booed when he s on the jumbotron. no one else in the country realizes that. on that note, we have to leave it there. r thank you for getting up with us today. up next is melissa harris-perry. joy reid is in for melissa.