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our calculations using this document that we obtained and previously available information suggests that vtb will control 24% of the holding company that owns rusal. you combine oleg deripaska s 45% with 12% his families or allies own and you very quickly add up to the entire company owned by deripaska or people close to putin. the whole idea is we need to get control of this company away from the kremlin and instead, it stays effectively in kremlin control and in control of the kremlin connected oligarch plus he benefits to the tunes of hundreds of millions of the dollars. it s remarkable reporting. i know it s a complex case, but i feel like you ve nailed it. thanks for helping us understand it. thanks for having me on to understand it. explain it. i will say that the thing that always gives these guys away, deep into ken vogel, mr. deripaska s associate expressed dissatisfaction and says this is
binding confidential document signed by both sides suggests that the agreement negotiated with the companies may have been less punitive than advertised. quote, the deal contains provisions that free him from hundreds of millions of dollars in debt while leaving him and his allies with majority ownership of his most important company. according to the documented. following the money always gets you the best stories. joining us now is ken vogel reporter at the new york times. thanks for being here tonight. appreciate you making the time. yes, it s a pleasure, rachel. we ve been following your reporting and as there has been this unusual political fight in a usual non-partisan fight where congress has thought about trying to stop the trump administration from lifting these sanctions. the argument the trump administration has marshalled is that yeah, you may want to be tough on russia, you may want to be tough on vladimir putin but these sanctions are actually, you don t understand
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