they are now at odds. which is why i set up the charity karma nirvana, what went wrong? so i could speak out. and what are the lessons? and interesting that you do hold your mother, of all family members, primarily responsible for inculcating this particular sort of atmosphere and practice and behaviour in your family. you say, i m ashamed to say that women do uphold these so called honour systems. they are the gatekeepers of abuse. do you think the work you ve done in karma nirvana, this ngo that you established afterwards, has made any difference to the mindset of people, including women like your late mother? jasvinder sanghera, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. you are an abuse survivor i think it has. and we ll talk about that. i think it s made an influence you re also a lifelong advocate in terms of sending out that strong message. for survivors of abuse i mean, i campaigned for the criminalisation and you were hired by of forced marriage. the church of england to be that, i m
disease like hepatitis b and c, hiv and then they can be linked to health care service. we have psychosocial support, too. and that s crucial, says the doctor who designed the policy two decades ago. the criminalisation by itself gives you nothing, but i think it s important to provide treatment to all those in need of it. harm reduction policies, as well. what lessons can scotland learn from your experience in portugal? well, i believe that it is very important to develop the health responses to drug users treatment, harm reduction responses and that decriminalisation is a very helpful tool to deal with it. would it save lives in scotland? i believe so. i believe it would. but portugal s liberal approach only goes so far. possession for personal
couple of months ago, where they were calling for the decriminalisation of drugs. were calling for the decriminalisation of dru:s. ., , decriminalisation of drugs. that is ri . ht. decriminalisation of drugs. that is riuht. i decriminalisation of drugs. that is right- ithink decriminalisation of drugs. that is right. i think they decriminalisation of drugs. that is right. i think they will decriminalisation of drugs. that is right. i think they will probably i right. i think they will probably still carry on arguing for that because there is still a big pub in scotland. if you compare it to the whole of the uk, the death rate in scotland is 2.7 times what it is when you take the uk in its entirety. you could certainly still argue that scotland has a big problem that needs to be addressed and i think that is what the scottish government will carry on doing. but their critics will point to the fact that they are making progress without those policy changes, so they will argue that t
recently. they want the uk government to allow them to decriminalise personal possession of all drugs, because they believe, in the same way as it would be argued has happened in countries like portugal, that can reduce the harms caused by drug use. i think what the scottish government s opponents and critics might argue today is that they are making significant progress without changing policy in those kind of ways, so they may well claim that that sort of big change is not yet necessary. but as i said a moment ago, the problem is still big in scotland, it is still a huge problem, it is still bigger than it is in pretty much any other part of the united kingdom, and i think the scottish government will probably continue to argue that there should be decriminalisation of personal possession here in scotland. thank
the scottish government wants to do. it s one of the things they ve spoken about very recently. they want the uk government to allow them to decriminalize personal possession of all drugs because they believe, in the same way as it would be argued has happened in countries like portugal, that can reduce the harms caused by drug use. i think what the scottish government s opponents and critics might argue today is that they are making significant progress without changing policy in those kind of ways. they may well claim that that sort of big change is not necessary, but as i said a moment ago, frankie, the problem is still big in scotland. it s still a huge problem. it s still bigger than it is in pretty much any other part of the united kingdom and i think the scottish government will probably continue to argue that there should be decriminalisation of personal