information and advice. we often shared papers and they had asked us about the circuit breaker idea and we sent them the papers, i have no idea whether that is what triggered them to take action or not. just above we them to take action or not. just above we see them to take action or not. just above we see an them to take action or not. just above we see an extract we looked at earlier, apparently the cabinet office are now cautious about putting things to sage, because we publish all. this happened at this time of increased tension. you said you weren t convinced that anything ever came of that concern. did you think at this time you, there were things you might have been asked about but weren t because of this caution? i been asked about but weren t because of this caution? of this caution? i suspect, but i can t remember, of this caution? i suspect, but i can t remember, that of this caution? i suspect, but i can t remember, that i - of this caution? i suspect,
a good understanding of the impact on the nhs capacity. what i had a good instinct for was seeing what was happening elsewhere in the world and knowing having had a number of conversations with mr sweeney about the legislation that might be needed, the worst case scenario which worryingly was looking like something that might actually happen, but a worst case scenario, we hadn t done any of the planning, how people will get fed if they have to stay at home, what will happen to schools if people have to stay at home and it is those, you might expect my policy background as a domestic civil servants that is probably where my mind went to more than else. i probably still at that point fervently hoped that the planning we would have to do for that extreme scenario wasn t in fact going to be needed, but i really knew we had to get that extreme scenario actually worked up. we have heard ou scenario actually worked up. we have heard you describe scenario actually worked up. we hav
out in 2011 and secretary gates rather tensely saying in interviews on sunday that that decision hadn t been made, demonstrates just how much tension there is over this issue. understood. listen, appreciate the comments from both of you. thank you very much. again, lieutenant general robert gar d & c ori schake. i want to turn to the serving politicians in this country. we re joined by george lemieux, a member of the senate armed services committee and met with general mcchrystal late last year. if you don t mind, i d love for you to jump in right where we left off which is the apparent tension or lack thereof. it seems to be a little bit in the eye of the beholder between those who would argue for an aggressive withdrawal next summer and those who argue that that s not what is going to happen so you have a civilian political agenda and a strategic military agenda that may not mix. well, dial answer, i think you ve hit on something that s very important as really the key going forw