earlier. we all go back to an era of a cold war with russia. we go back to things like missiles and aircraft carriers and the kind of base fear we grew up with. this is so different now. in a way, lower ticket, lower tech. for lack of a double authentication on google, foreign power can hack into the american election and then some. so how have the tools of the battle changed? how much have they changed, barry? let me start off by saying i ve spent most of my adult life studying the russians. and it s been a good bet as the soviet union came apart in and out of moscow, kiev, mostly arms control dealings, tremendous admiration for the russian people physics, math, ballet, literature, courageous military. they ve turned into a criminal oligarchy run by this fellow
i ve never spoken to him. i don t know anything about him other than he will respect me. i with us in moscow a couple months ago. you know, i own the miss universe pageant. they treated me so great. putin even sent me a president. beautiful present with a beautiful note. i got to know him very well. we were on 60 minutes. we did 60 minutes together. by the way, not together, together. meaning he was probably shot in moscow and i was shot in new york. i spoke directly and indirectly with president putin who could not have been nicer. i don t know putin. i never met putin. this is not my best friend. just some of the questions and answers over the last few years. two weeks ago the new york times reported there are four people, trump associates who the fbi is closely examined over potential contacts with russian intelligence officials during the campaign season. all four men have strongly denied improper contact with
gentlemen, welcome to you both. we were talking to remnick earlier. we all go back to an era of a cold war with russia. we go back to things like missiles and aircraft carriers and the kind of base fear we grew up with. this is so different now. in a way, lower ticket, lower tech. for lack of a double authentication on google, foreign power can hack into the american election and then some. so how have the tools of the battle changed? how much have they changed, barry? let me start off by saying i ve spent most of my adult life studying the russians. and it s been a good bet as the soviet union came apart in and out of moscow, kiev, mostly arms control dealings, tremendous admiration for the russian people physics, math, ballet, literature, courageous military. they ve turned into a criminal
investigations? as i said before, you know, quoting nixon, people have got to know their president is not a crook. david cay johnston, thank you very much for bearing with us, especially with the bad weather right overhead. david, thank you. thank you, brian. we ve been talking after all about donald trump and vladimir putin. trump has praised vladimir putin, but nbc s chief foreign correspondent richard engel talked to a man who says putin is not worthy of that praise. he is with us again from moscow tonight. richard? reporter: well, there is another way of looking at this entire situation, and it is coming up in the conversation that you ve been having tonight with all the guests in that it s all about the money. great fortunes have been made in this country, particularly by a small group of individuals around president vladimir putin. and they have proven time and time again they will g to great lengths to protect that money.
i do have a relationship. and i can tell you that he s very interested in what we re doing here today. i ve never spoken to him. i don t know anything about him other than he will respect me. i with us in moscow a couple months ago. you know, i own the miss universe pageant. they treated me so great. putin even sent me a president. beautifupresent with a beautiful note. i got to know him very well. we were on 60 minutes. we did 60 minutes together. by the way, not together, together. meaning he was probably shot in moscow and i was shot in new york. i spoke directly and indirectly with president putin who could not have been nicer. i don t know putin. i never met putin. this is not my best friend. just some of the questions and answers over the last few years. two weeks ago the new york times reported there are four people, trump associates who the fbi is closely examined over potential contacts with russian