only pay for what you need liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. spider-man no way home in theaters december 17th martha: look at this. here s what s going on in the country right now. another brazen mop of thieves pull up in a bunch of cars and rob the place. police say it was 80 people broke in to and stormed nordstroms outside of san francisco. did you ever in your life think you would see stuff like this? they just pull up. there s the police pulling up after probably most of them have gone. it s one of the shocking lootings that we saw over the course of the weekend. many of them got away with it. claudia cowan reporting live from walnut creek, california. hi, claudia. hi, martha. ahead of black friday,
calm them down. hopefully get better. martha: tell me what happened with you and your daughter and your family watching this parade. so i seen a lot of commotion. moved to the right side. i noticed a car coming. when i noticed the car coming, i stood up and said oh, no. my daughter stood up, pushed her to the right. then i just basically yelled get out of the way. so my wife got out of the way. like i said, i was ready to take a hit if i needed to. i wanted to make sure that they were out of the way. you say you sensed that something was wrong. obviously you don t expect anything like this in this situation. did you when you saw the s.u.v. come by, did it appear that it was being different intentionally or trying to stop or get out of the way of the people? no.
i m going to seek with his defense attorney in just a moment. but first, some of the media reaction to rittenhouse s acquittal after he testified that he killed two men and wounded another in self-defense. rittenhouse then 17 killed two men with his ar-15 style assault rifle. he claimed self-defense. rittenhouse drove in from illinois, armed for battle. what we know now is the jury bought the narrative of kyle rittenhouse being a victim. the fact that white supremists roam the haul freely and the fact that he gets to walk the streets freely lets you know that they can institute laws. this kid illegally carrying a gun, he was 17 years old, he walks up to cops. martha: kyle rittenhouse s attorney, mark richards joins me now. thanks very much for being here. let s just start on that. obviously it s disturbing.
if he tries to rerun at 82 years old. martha: he insists he s going to run again, tom. this report came out i don t see i mean, on one hand, martha, he has to say that. he s trying to pass his agenda. we ve had this story about infighting in the white house. people are jockeying and positioning themselves for the future. the biden team wants to put an end to that. that would be one run to do this. it s hard to see how he would stand for re-election at 82. he will be under a lot of pressure for democrats to pass the baton to someone new and younger, the younger generation. whether that is kamala harris or someone else. at this point, it s too early for him to say i m not running that would obliterate his agenda. he might do that before the mid-terms or after the mid-terms. until then, he will stick with the line he s running to stave off the chaos that we started to
if somehow they lowered it and it was inappropriate, someone should be held accountable. i m not jumping on until i know the facts. sometimes we like to jump on the narrative so quickly. we learned that that is not appropriate, a lot of people did that in the kyle rittenhouse case. i m not going to do it just yet. martha: it s perfectly fay to say there s a trend across the country in many districts of doing this, of lowering bail in order to let people get out and get on with their lives. we ll see whether or not it applies in this case, mark. thanks very much. good to see you. my pleasure. martha: so coming up, a fox exclusive interview with mark richards with his client s verdict. more when we come back. ortant me rate watch alert for veteran home owners. mortgage rates are starting to climb nationally, but newday is holding the line at just two and a quarter percent, 2.48 apr, still the lowest in their history.