i may disagree with you, jamie, stuttgart and the uss mount whitney we have command and control of the initial stages of the operation and we have a history of doing decapitation campaigns incredibly well and i says in this studio in 2003, when we went in and, you know, softened iraq and did the same thing in the balkans. the problem, though, jamie is no fly zones alone do not generally cause regime change and i know admiral mullen, i was here and heard him say what he said. but he doesn t have the mission. and, perhaps, our french buddies will do what is necessary here and, we can get on with life. jamie: get on with life, hopefully a different life, for the people there in libya, we haven t taken qaddafi out, nobody has, none of our allies, either. is this mission successful without that? kwupt to split the baby and have benghazi being a separation