then we heard counsel for the republicans say the president s concerned about foreign aid because you could kiss it good-bye. assuming that s referring to anti-corruption. but let s look at the facts of the july 25th call. i happen to have read it just recently. which sharply illustrates the president s willingness to abuse thell power of his office for h own personal benefit. the memorandum of that call is on the screen in front of you. and it shows that president trump says, and by the way, right after president zelensky spoke about defense support and the javelins, i would like you to do us a favor, though. so this is a president s own behavior in words. mr. goldman, what was that favor? the favor was to investigate a debunked conspiracy theory related to ukraine interference in the 2016 election.
my republican colleagues also make much about the fact that the aid was finally released, but isn t it true that it wasn t released until the president got caught? it wasn t released until the president got caught and all of the money didn t actually get to ukraine in that fiscal year, and you all in congress had to pass another law to allow for the money to get to ukraine. thank you.he earlier today, mr. castor attempted to explain away the president s requeste for forei interference in our election by claiming that the president had three concerns, that number one, the president was concerned about ukraine corruption, that number two, he was concerned about burden-sharing with europe, and number three, he brought up the debunked conspiracy theory about ukraine election interference, which by the way, that last point we know is a russian talking point. mr.al goldman, did the investigative committees
again, this is a russian talking point. a debunked conspiracy theory. are you surprised to hear this coming from ted cruz considering he was the target of conspiracy theorys when he was running against president trump? i think at this point, so few people are tuning into the details of what s happeneded. i think the time for that was in october. we re months past it at this point. we ve seen other republican senators use this, senator kennedy then sort of backtracked then went back to it. i think republicans have yet to center on an exact message of how to defend the president. if you remember initially, it was well the conduct was bad but not impeachable. they ve really moved on from that message, but i don t think they ve settled on a single message yet and inn you re seeing that on the sunday shows, whether it s senator cruz or many of the other republicans, aren t really cohesive in what they re say, but the trut is it hasn t mattered. the republican support is splid
baffled. i continue to be just baffled. sabrina, one thing i thought was interesting, we talk about what facts the white house has to deal with and you talked about that, jackie, and they don t have a lot of facts to discuss. sometimes what they do, for instance the last time the white house publicly did something is when acting chief of staff mick mulvaney came out and basically admitted not basically, but admitted a quid pro quo and said that the military aid was being held up in part because they wanted to force ukraine to do this investigation about ukraine itself. now what they tried to do is try to change the facts. they do this hide the card thing where what president trump wanted in terms of the investigation and ukraine was this debunked conspiracy theory that ukraine hacked into the dnc server and crowdstrike took the server to ukraine. it is insane. it is nuts. president trump s own advisers called it debunked. but what mick mulvaney claimed was it was the investigatio
the president which is an investigation into the joe biden and an investigation into this debunked conspiracy theory that was ukraine who interfered in the last election, not withstanding all of our intelligence agencies concluding it was russia, notwithstanding the fact that it s actually putin s narrative that ukraine did it, not us. but nonetheless, the president believed obviously this would help his reelection campaign, and was willing to use the full force of his office to leverage ukraine to do these sham investigations. the process is when the committee takes a vote, that vote will be to convey to the judiciary committee. right. the judiciary committee would then, if they so choose, use that as the basis for drawing up articles of impeachment. now, if that s going to be the way this goes, we ll have to see how the you dish yea committee handles this part of the process, you re still subpoenaing witnesses and documents, you re still