i m one of the folks who would say why do we have a debt celling? it s because we spend more than we bring in. run deficits. we have to pay our bills. there are people who would say let s just have an automatic increase in the debt ceiling. when you run out of money you have to raise it. we have to pay our bills. so really, it s a vote we have to take. we ve always taken it, always will. whether we do it in december, whether we do it in june or put it on a perpetual automatic increase, which is what i think we should do. that s because you re a businessman though. obviously you would run it very differently if this were a business. it s no the a business. so many of the services aren t in a profit mode. you also give up all of this political leverage the party wants to use to wage war over fiscal responsibility the. that s why the business acumen
could have been so easy. now it s a mess. he says. now, it s a mess. the president says. so it s not me saying it s a mess. it s the press of the united states, brian, suggesting the way that mitch mcconnell has handled this is a mess. look, i appreciate that the president is anxious to get his agenda through. so are republicans in congress. but the simple fact is if you attached the debt celling to the va bill, both would have failed so i think the more constructive approach would be to focus on the republicans you into ed to get this thing 0 through and the democrat the and to talk about in a. but you just said in a very reasoned way something i m sure mitch mcconnell would tell the president. le you re flat-out wrong. if we did what you said this would go down. it gets to the way the president understands. to that point, the president keeps on talking about the snae senate changing the filly busser rules. this is something you talk to
wants. you have them with they are declaring war on the two most important people on capitol hill. right. i think you have the sentiment right when you say this is frufrp moving more towards being the independent can washington establishment he ran against. if you talk to the white house some people see a very dicey september coming up. you ll have fights over the debt celling, over the continuing revolution. there are concerns those legislative fights will not have funding for donald trump s wall. the idea that donald trump could some how sign a resolution that does not contain funding for his wall would totally blow up his relationship with the base.
thank you, sean. in a recent statement by senator mccain, he said that vladamir putin is a greater threat to the united states security than ivan. has the president had any conversation with you about that comment? no, he hasn t. secretary mnuchin said he wants the debt celling raised before the august sres. this morning gary cohn said the administration is willing to do whatever it takes to get it passed by august. the freedom caucus said they want spending cuts. doesn t sound like the secretary will get a clean bill. what s the administration willing to take as far as spending cuts? i think that was the nature of what jen is asking. i think that is a conversation that our team is going to have with congressional leaders and other stake holders freedom caucus and other members about what it s going to take. there s bipartisan recognition
let s go to a.b. stoddard from real clear politics. a.b.? the only thing that republicans are agreeing upon these days is they have a brutal summer ahead as mike emanuel points out, before they leave nor the august recess, which is 31 legislative days from now with the time that take off each week that i have to raise the debt celling with a bipartisan vote that requires 60 votes in the senate. they hope with that bill to actually pair something else, the end of some she questing cuts. the president wants to increase military spending. in order to do so, they have to change by law the budget control act of 2011. that also has to be a bipartisan vote that they have to do with democrat s. this package they hope to get out of the door in 31 legislative days. they haven t done much of the tough stuff since january. this is a huge, heavy lift.