it s clear the speaker s bill breaks the commitment to america. incredibly dangerous. instead of playing these games, avoid default. we have been very clear, we are not going to negotiate on that. harris: speaker mccarthy says the president should listen to advice from his own political party. joe manchin says we should negotiate, debbie dingle said we should negotiate, others as well. amy klobuchar said it as well. and for anybody out there saying oh, just raise the debt ceiling, it s not what the president said when he was vice president and senator. he voted for four debt ceilings and the four he vote against because he said the reforms did not go far enough. harris: where is the unify president he promised that he was going to be and work across the aisle? if he didn t want to negotiate with us, they should have passed it in december with the reckless bill.
the ball into chuck schumer s court. sandra: i see you nodding in agreement. where do you think this goes? jason knows it better than me with respect to the part, if he s telling me it will pass, it will pass, i don t think he ll have to get any democratic votes, i have to challenge that. we ll have a dinner bet. i m from the old school, i think it should be a clean bill. like reagan thought, trump thought, 78 debt ceilings passed, 49 by democrat, not this type of negotiation. all for budget negotiation but we have to pay our bills and we cannot allow the full faith of the country to be sandra: i don t get that argument, mccarthy does avoid default. he s not threatening default here. he s going to pay the bills. no, we should he s putting i hate this phrase, a gun to biden s head.
page bill last week that would raise the debt limit by $1.5 trillion. the debt ceilings already at 31.4 trilling in this legislation is something that republican leaders have been discussing internally now for the past several weeks and includes a series of cuts designed to appease conservatives. house speaker kevin mccarthy is teeing up a vote for this bill this week, but it s unclear whether he has the 218 votes needed to win over and passed this win over conservatives and pass this through the house. um now. the broader picture here is that this bill will never pass the democratic led senate. but the broader strategy from kevin mccarthy is designed to try and force president biden and democrats back to the negotiating table and use this bill as leverage to show that any deal must include spending cuts across the board. so what are these spending cuts that mccarthy is pushing for? and you know, walk us through whether he has the votes to get them past. right well, the bill includes a
but we ve seen before people walk out of the white house and attack the person they just met with on budget negotiations. i ve seen it before in the past. that s just bush league. there was none of that yesterday. listen, that s something we should applaud when we see it. two people working together from different parties with divergent views, trying to stop the economy from being wrecked. yeah. aides on both sides portrayed it as a positive. the meeting was respectful. the two men don t have much of a relationship. biden and mcconnell have known each other for decades. but this is the first inning of the process. little got done yesterday, to be expected. this is going to be a long haul. you know, white house aides have already floated an off-ramp for mccarthy. you form a committee or super committee to study the budget, to study future debt ceilings, thinking it d be enough to save face while passing the
my leadership and voice will not be diminished. if i am not on this committee for one term. my voice will get louder and stronger, and my leadership will be celebrated around the world as it has been. reporter: the argument democrats are making is that mccarthy doesn t even really care about, you know, the substance of omar s comments or that it s not some policy disagreement or accountability, she has been held accountable by democrats, she has apologized for previous anti-semitic comments, this is really about revenge. democrats got republicans out of their committees last congress with republican votes, now republicans are coming for democratic votes. mccarthy says that s not true. but the tit for tat continued continue. let s talk about the debt ceilings, i know they didn t come to an agreement, but what did they discuss and what might it look like in the house?