occurred to me which i d forgotten but a really good friends of mine s wife developed breast cancer cancer, subsequently had a double mastectomy, and ijust put her in touch with rachael. rachael said, yep and kind of, rachael personally counselled her. she found the time to do that. do you know what i mean? and so, with that and the public work she did, it s astonishing. do you think all of this has changed the way that you talk about cancer on air now? 0h, massively. i think it s changed the way the whole country talks about cancer i feel, anyway because i grew up in a background where, i ve just said, nobody said it was about four hours after my mum died when all the relatives were round the house that my auntie finally told me she d died of cancer and even then, i think it was the c word , it wasn t cancer . you know, it sjust unthinkable in this day and age and all power to you guys for doing that. someone had to change move the dial, change the conversation. and it s
when we were kids, i remember we were actually watching some videos the other day of kind - of the gymnastics and stuff. and she d always kind ofjust try new things and just do it, | basically, and kind of force us in, you know? could we talk a little bit about, you know, fast forward to the rubbish stuff, the cancer stuff. like, what when did she first articulate to you guys that she wanted to create bowelbabe? and what were your reactions? were you, like, all for it or were you a bit like, oh god ? i think itjust happened. yeah, to be fair, i think| when you re really close to something, you kindaj forget that it s going on. so, to be honest, you kind of it wasn t until really this - well, last year, that kind of things you realise i yourself the impact, like, yourselves, the podcast i and what debs engagement was really like. i think to me, she kind - of was just using it as good outpost and engagement - with the community but i m not one for very good social media, so y
and i did the last radio interview with debs, when she was in her garden at home, and i said, i m not putting the phone down because i thought i didn t want to finalise everything, so we hung on it was like, you put the phone down . no, you put it down. anyway, so, i was invited to the funeral and i agonised about it and ijust decided not go because i thought, debs. if i could say to debs, should i be at your funeral with everybody else, or have i got this platform on the day of the funeral to be able to say to reiterate her message? i think said on air, you know, i m not at the funeral. i m here to tell you to check your poo. and vicky told me and, i mean, you re coming up later, so you could tell this story better than me but she basically said she was leaving the funeral, heard me on the radio and it was very emotional for people who were at the funeral. and subsequently, about two or three days later, we got a guy on an ambulance driver who said he wa
at least an hour. laughter. and then, the way that debs was so late. - oh, my god! she had to meet us there. she how she got| through security. there were so many things. going on with terrorist attacks but debs managed to get through everything, high| security, without a pass, without id, without us i meeting her, just with a big, floppy hat and, like, - i m here! it was at the start of the marathon. yeah. so at the start of the marathon, there s lots of different start lines. and she s going across car parks, through fences. she s i can see you! i can see the tent! and she s like and we re like, debs, do you need someone to come and get you? no, i ll be fine! and then, she was! she was all fine. she was. and then, she sat on a table that she thought was a chair that then collapsed, in front of andy murray. laughter. 0h, we ve had a great time. as someone who does many podcasts like, you re on the bbc, you ve done this for years like, what s it been like watching thi
applause continues. there is a couple of guys who we really want to get on because they ve been really a big part of this story from day one, haven t they? i mean, we re the talent. laughs. who brought her? we need to get mike and al on because they ve have been backing this thing since day one. they are the brains behind every episode. they make us sound a lot better than we are by editing out the cock ups, so please welcome al and mike. cheering and applause. is there one, like, memory from the pod that you d look back and you think, that was a great episode ? the marathon. yeah! the marathon one was amazing. we got down from salford to london, on time, fine. | there wasjust loz and debs to meet us in london, - just minutes away. how late were you ? how late was i? all: late.