Support ukraine and how nato could define a path to membership, hosted by the atlanta counsel, this is about an hour. Good morning. I am greg myre, National Security correspondent with npr and it is my pleasure to welcome you to the special event in washington, the councils Eurasia Center is launching a new memo to the president with some Ambitious Goals involving ukraine. The memo assigned by 40 National Security figures and lays out two specific points, one, how to help ukraine win the war against russia and how to help bring ukraine into in nato. The Atlantic Council has assembled an allstar panel here whose members need only the briefest introductions. To my left is debra kagan, Senior Advisor to the senior counsels Eurasia Center and to her left, ambassador john hurts john herbst, former ambassador to ukraine. We have two panels that will join us virtually, one of them is ambassador Alexander Vershbow, former ambassador to russia and former deputy secretarygeneral to nato and i be
58 . In Eastern Ukraine where theyre likely uncomfortable with what happened in kiev, how the government left and how that crimea is a bigger shock and may have the unintended consequence, perhaps of helping the country unite. And the last point, they have to be very careful how they handle nato. I think i hear what mike is saying and i guess i would just disagree. My guess is that over the next ten years youre not going to see ukraine seriously consider joining nato, and i say this as somebody in 2008 who testified to congress that ukraine was ready. They checked all the boxes but in the last five years i would reassess that. Even when you had a pronato government, the Popular Support never got above 28 , and nato is never going to seriously consider a country for membership when you bring in a country where the population is not comfortable with that and its difficult for me to see that changing. So on the one sense the russians ought to be assured theres in the a realistic prospect
Minute as much as possible. We have a gentleman right here. And then he will be next, i think i see your hand next, the lady over here will be second. Theres a lady in the back. With ask the lady in the back. We will ask the lady in the back since i dont think shes had a chance yet. [inaudible conversations] the question is with all the other things on the table, like settlements and resettlement, why is israels Nuclear Weapons on the table . And what israel has between 75 and 400 Nuclear Weapons. That is much more than whats needed to demolish the world and why are we pushing back on that . Why are we only threatening iran which doesnt even have Nuclear Capacity for power. [applause] i would assume if someone wants to go into more detail, there are three words that i think answer that. That maybe someone wants to expand on this. I would just say that its the israelis would never use them responsibly, its a function of defense and deterrence. The historical record shows they had been a
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