[ applause ] well, first of all, congratulations on the show, the success of the show. you come back on the show. but i just want to start out on the personal side. look i ve got a son turned 15. a little boy turning 11 this month. i can t imagine them coming home to an empty house with the parents being gone. talk to us about that experience so people understand this is not an abstract debating point. right, well it was something that i my family and i always feared. and then it actually happened. and we were unprepared. you know, at the time, the nation really wasn t having conversations like the ones we are having now. and even still we are having the conversations. and still. still happening. still happening. families are being separated. it was really scary. it was really really scary. and i didn t i didn t know
the opposite, which is he doesn t need to prove his progressive bona fides. you heard pete buttigieg say that s not enough. if we do that, we will lose. that s such a key sort of tension point and debating point, whether or not voters i think are going to articulate it or it s something that s kind of in their bones. do we want to go with somebody who we know keeps us calm or do we want to shake things up. i think draum wasn t exactly the safe choice. no. i think vice president biden, part of the reason he wasn t in california is he doesn t think he needs to do what everyone else is doing. he has the name recognition. he didn t get into the race until late. he did something totally different which then got us talking about the fact that he s not in california. so they are playing that in a different way. he thinks that he doesn t have to play by the same rules
debating point. the fact is there were budgetary implications to daca, i mean, if you re going to deport 800,000 people that s going to cost money. you shut down the government in 2013, you at large republicans because you didn t like obamacare, you wanted a shut down the government in 2015 because you didn t like planned parenthood, they are willing to shutdown the government because they want a solution to daca, you can say, well, one thing is what s in the bill and one thing that s not in the bill, both you then and them now are willing to shut down the government because they support or oppose a policy. same issue. go back and look at 2013 and 2015, we can have a long discussion another day. the house actually voted to open the government. we voted many times on many different packages that would have opened the government. in fact, i remember voting for stuff that i didn t like very much so that the government could open. it was a breakdown in the senate at the time under harry
point significant difference. i think a debating point the fact is, that they are a budgery implications to dhaka if you are going to deport 800,000 people going to cost money, you shut down the government, in 2013, you republicans because you didn t like obamacare you wanted to shut down government again in 2015, case didn t like planned parenthood they are willing to shut down want solution to dhaka you can say one thing in the bill one thing what is not in in the bill the point is both i then and them now are kwilg to shut down, the government, because they support or oppose a policy, same issue. go back look at 2013, 2015 a long discussion about another day there were many, many times the house actually voted, to open the government, voted many times on many different packages that would have opened the government, in fact i i remember voting for stuff i didn t like so government could open a breakdown in the senate that
debating point. the fact is there were budgetary implications to daca, i mean, if you re going to deport 800,000 people that s going to cost money. you shut down the government in 2013, you at large republicans because you didn t like obamacare, you wanted a shut down the government in 2015 because you didn t like planned parenthood, they are willing to shutdown the government because they want a solution to daca, you can say, well, one thing is what s in the bill and one thing that s not in the bill, both you then and them now are willing to shut down the government because they support or oppose a policy. same issue. go back and look at 2013 and 2015, we can have a long discussion another day. the house actually voted to open the government. we voted many times on many different packages that would have opened the government. in fact, i remember voting for stuff that i didn t like very much so that the government could open. it was a breakdown in the senate at the time under harry