we do not know exactly when which is what sandra was saying. as we ramp up in an communications point, because i think that we are still trying to fill some jobs in the white house. who is in charge of the messaging right now? abby: they are going to be upset that he did not say something right. he is in a tough position as president, and at this moment everybody is going to watch very, very closely. he is he going to say what he needs to say? that s a lot of pressure. charlie: if you step back and to look at the whole situation even before saturday, you have a discussion in a debate inside charlottesville about taking down the statue of robert e lee, there are good people on both sides of that debate. and there are good people who feel like it is a part of history, we do not want to see the thing taken down. and good people that say this is a distraction and that it is offensive to people. we want to take it down.