bulletproof vest and handgun to go up against that kind of fire power because it will go through the vehicle and through my vest. harry? oh, yeah, without a doubt, he s right. that 5.6 round, military-type rounds, it goes right through your vehicle and through your vest, right through the back of your vest and probably into the back of the vehicle that you re driving. it s a very fast round. they have capabilities of 30 rounds, 60 rounds for this, also. it s a very bad round. deb feyerick is joining us with breaking details. deb, what do you know about the suv and what they found? yeah. and this is in talking to a source. there were two men inside that vehicle. at least one of them is dead following the chase. one of the men that was outside the vehicle. both of them had ar-15 type weapons. as police were chasing the vehicle, items were being thrown from the vehicle, including what
appears to be these pipe bombs and those are being dealt with very closely right now. we know that one of the officers engaged the suspect, one of the suspects from the back window. the officer engaged them. that officer is now being questioned because what they are really trying to determine, erin, is just how many people there were altogether in that car. and that s why you can see some of what is taking place, going door-to-door, making sure no one got out. the search in redlands, i m being told, is the home of one of the possible suspects. so this is over a certain range and that s one of the reasons, because they were throwing things from the vehicle, because they were firing back and clearly police are trying to make sure that no one else is out there and on the loose and that s really what they are engaged in right now. erin? deb, you re answering a crucial question. we had a reporter on the ground in redlands. you re saying that there were two in the vehicle which would
police uniforms to gain access to the sensitive site, and imagine these isis terrorists dressed up like policemen, and the confusion, and the event that could take place in new york or elsewhere, and it is a huge challenge. are they instructed to the fire at police? well, that is why it is so sca scary, because it is a split second decision life/death. thank you both, deb feyerick and paul cruickshank. and coming up next, the show of force like the one you saw in new york city deter anything or does it influence the recruiting for the terrorists? and by the way, is a contest among the terrorists really what we have to worry about?
traveling, and so there are going to be many more security precautions than what is up against what is called no current credible threats in the united states. but yesterday he joined the new york police and first responders for this. it looked scary, but it was thank god a drill. three-hour active shooter drill, and this happened at a lower manhattan subway station. loud and scary and noisy and effective. they say that the drill had been on the books for months. but we want to know how these attacks in paris may have chang changed things or if they have at all. we want to ask deb feyerick, and also our cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank. and so that is a video that may make people feel more on the
there are no specific or credible threats at this time. again, no specific threats to the homeland. let s bring in deb feyerick joining us from new york. what are you hearing from your sources about what they are doing and why they are doing it? well, one interesting thing just to sort of play off the no specific credible threats, that s assuming they know what the threats are and that s what changed everything in europe, because the cia director came out and said as much that some of these attackers were not even on anyone s radar. they just came out of nowhere. you would think with all the intelligence that exists right now that somehow, some of these people would have raised a flag sufficient enough to have been identified in the plotting of all of this. but these attacks are really a game changer and law enforcement knows that. it s the soft targets that were that were hit, the concert, the football stadium, the restaurants and it is almost possible to protect that. and that s