than it was 20, 30 years ago. and speaking of washington, d.c., and the climate of a different kind there. politics has often screwed up serious scientific concerns. is there any way for the scientists to win out on this issue. ? it very frustrating as a scientist. so many people i talk to seem to de side the science based upon their political beliefs. if they re conservative, they don t believe in it. if they re liberal, they believe in climate warming. there is a lot of disinformation that has come out over the last ten years. so many people have heard about natural variability. there is a lot in the climate changes. changes in the sun, we re observing those things now. we know that the changes that are taking place now are not due to volcanic activity. they re not due to changes in the sun. we observe these and we monitor them. what is happening is that temperatures rising, we measure the temperatures, we see it rising and all the models, the