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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:03:00

wanted the server deleted. trump employee 4 responded that he would not know how to do that and that he did not believe he would have the rights to do that. trump employee 4 told de oliveira that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee, who was a supervisor of security for trump s business organization. de oliveira then insisted to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deep deleted and asked, what are we going to do? since the indictment was released yesterday, trump employee number 4 has been identified by certain news outlets as yuscil taveras, the i.t. director at mar-a-lago. interestingly enough, the release latest reporting indicates that was taveras at one point being represented by the same attorney who represents walt nauta and who is being paid by trump s save america pack. we re gonna ask the former united states attorney harry litman about the potential conflict events interest that

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:02:00

and attempting to destroy evidence in the case and it is empty prevent justice department officials from getting access to security camera footage from mar-a-lago. the new indictment details those attempts, which culminated in an effort to get yet another individual, referred to in the indictment as trump employee number 4, to dedicate down delegate to delete, not delegates, to delete from the service they were stored on. the superseding indictment reads, quote, de oliveira told trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee 4 responded that he would not know how to do that and that he did not believe he would have the rights to do that. trump employee 4 told de oliveira that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee, who was a supervisor of security for trump s business organization. de oliveira then insisted to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deep deleted and asked, what are we going to do? since the indictment was released yes

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approximately 45 days. then de oliveira told trump employee four that quote, the boss, we know who that, is one of the server deleted. trump employee 4 responded that he would not know how to do that and that he did not believe he would have the right to do that. trump employee 4 then told de oliveira that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee, a supervisor of security for trump s business organization. de oliveira then insisted to trump employee 4 that the boss, again, we know who that is, wanted the server deleted and asked what are we going to do. now, it s not entirely clear what happens after that. the indictment does not explicitly say trump asked anyone for the footage to be deleted, is there audio of that. although it is heavily implied. nor does it say whether the footage actually was deleted. and the indictment does mention that classified iran war planning document the trump apparently showed mark meadows

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:12:00

trump employee 4 told de oliveira that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee who was a supervisor of security for trump s business organization. de oliveira then insisted to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted. and he asked, what are we going to do now? that is the end of that criminal conversation, as described in the indictment today. the supervisor of security for trump s business organization is matthew calamari, who has testified to jack smith s grand jury. minutes after that conversation, de oliveira texted nauta, still in florida, hey buddy, are you working today? de oliveira then called nauta it in 15 pm they spoke for about one minute. the security camera video which

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:11:00

this was trump employee 4 s moment. he could make the conspiracy work. he could prevent the fbi from ever knowing the truth about the way the boxes were moved to prevent materials from being handed over to the fbi, subject to a federal subpoena. trump employee 4 could commit a crime for the boss or do the right thing. de oliveira told trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee 4 responded that he would not know how to do that, and that he did not believe that he would have the rights to do that. trump employee 4 told de oliveira that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee who was a supervisor of security for trump s business organization. de oliveira then insisted to trump employee 4 that the boss wanted the server deleted. and he asked, what are we going to do now? that is the end of that

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