that can fight both assad and isis and give people safe haven. i do think we have a responsibility to help with refugees after proper screening and i think our focus ought to be on the christians who have no place in syria anymore. they re being beheaded. they re being executed by both sides and i think we have a responsibility to help. but ultimately the best way to deal with refugees is to have a strategy to take out isis and assad and act on that strategy immediately. it does sound like to do safe zones in syria, it will mean boots on the ground. absolutely. and it ought to be designed by our military without their hands tied. we ought to know exactly what it will take, and we can t do it alone. i think that s an important lesson from history, but we need to lead. but for the united states, who is going to take the leadership role? i think having a no-fly zone will be an important part of this and there are many other things we need to do in concert with our allies. governor b
really felt what happened in paris a lot, but i m just not sure how people are going to feel that this year. did everything change, jeff? you know that feeling. everything changes for 48 hours. a, only time will tell. but i do have a serious point. the one word no one should use about these attacks is senseless. the isis people knew precisely what they were doing and where they attacked. this was not random. and i think the problem that hillary is going to have is as you say, she is more hawkish than the president, but right now she is in a democratic primary so does she try to reappear or reapply that distance or does she continue to hug the president close? all right. you just got the last word in there. terrific panel. peshl it. that s all we have today. we ll be back next week because if it s sunday, it s meet the press. sunday, it is meet the press.
40,000 troops. boots on the ground. people, not just boots, people, to get rid of isis. now, that s the private assessment. not just get rid of them they say 30,000 to 40,000. it s clear and hold. somebody has got to come up with those troops and so who it supposed to be? and the answer was if you decide to do it, it s going to be the united states. michaelleiter, what did you hear from governor that would say, okay, what do you think he got right and got wrong? two key points. one, assad remains the core of this problem. until we really have a good strategy to get rid of assad and what comes after, isis will continue to prosper. the second is many of the policy solutions he suggested, the no-fly zone, the safe zones, those are hard. for the past three months they ve been a whole lot harder because of russia and what putin has put in the region. russians flying combat missions,
joining me is former florida governor and a presidential candidate, jeb bush. governor bush, welcome back to meet the press. thank you. let me ask it this way, ben rhodes believes we are at war. the french president says we are at war. there s wars that are tactical and then there s a war against an ideology. how do you defeat an ideology, governor? well, you take it to them in syria and iraq. you destroy isis and then you build a coalition to replace this radical islamic terrorist threat to our country and to europe and to the region with something that is more peace-loving. we have to be engaged in this. this is not something you can contain. each day isis exists, it gains new energy and more recruits around the world. you know, everything is a divide here. there s democracy, there s security and stability. so, for instance, in dealing with isis, our coalition partners like turkey and saudi arabia they care more about getting rid of assad than they
past a watch list going into europe. when you talk about visa waiver countries that could potentially come to the united states with western passports, that s where the homeland gets implicated. the panel is also here. way nt to bring everybody in. eugene robinson, columnist for the washington post. my colleague at nbc, chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, jennifer reuben with the washington post and jeff greenfield, a former correspondent. jeff greenfield, you wanted to pop in with a question. question is this, everybody seems to want a robust response, nobody wants to put american combat troops, but if isis in iraq and syria is something more like a state at this point, are we kidding ourselves? can this be done without a large infusion of american combat troops? michael? i think the answer is no. we may not need the same number that we needed when he first went into iraq, but we need more troops to push the iraqis faster. we need more than 50 special oper