kelly mcevers has interviewed bill pruitt. and also david swerdly. good evening to both of you. kelly. you interviewed bill pruitt for pod cast npr back in 2017. imbedded. i want to listen to what bill told you about the content of the tapes and then we ll talk. was it just about women? very much a racist issue? it was about race? yes. about african-americans, jewish people, all of the above? when you heard these things there s the audible gasp that is quickly followed by a cough and then you just sort of carry on. so he says he heard awful stuff but does he know if tapes actually exist? he has a strong feeling that they do.
and then it was pretty quickly, she said, all right, fine, a deputy will get in touch, and then a deputy got in touch and said, these are the same recycled allegations and lies from the past. got it. there was some interest. okay. in whether or not we had the tapes. david, i want to bring you into the conversation. thanks for sitting by and listening to this. do you think pruitt s claims are credible? that s great reporting by kelly. i have no reason to doubt what pruitt said there, i also don t blame him for wanting to go further than he did in that interview. i think it would be despicable if, in fact, then donald trump, now president trump said those things about any person, any african-american, including kwame jackson who i know. we have several mutual friends. as a journalist, don i do think there s some value to us eventually getting to the bottom of this, to find out whether or not these tapes exist, and whether or not what is alleged to be on those tapes is true, a
and also david swerdly. kelly. you interviewed bill pruitt for npr back in 2017. i want to listen to what bill told you about the content of the tapes and then we ll talk. was it just about women? very much a racist issue? it was about race? yes. about african-americans, jewish people, all of the above? when you heard these things there s the audible gasp that is quickly followed by a cough and then you just sort of carry on. so he says he heard awful stuff but does he know if tapes actually exist? he has a strong feeling that they do. he was a producer on the show for seasons one and two, by the way, i m not bill pruitt s
then a deputy got in touch and said, these are the same recycled allegations and lies from the past. got it. there was some interest. okay. in whether or not we had the tapes. david, i want to bring you into the conversation. thanks for sitting by and listening to this. do you think pruitt s claims are credible? that s great reporting by kelly. i have no reason to doubt what pruitt said there, i also don t blame him for wanting to go further than he did in that interview. i think it would be despicable if, in fact, then donald trump, now president trump said those things about any person, any african-american, including kwame jackson who i know. we have several mutual friends. as a journalist, don i do think there s some value to us eventually getting to the bottom of this, to find out whether or not these tapes exist, and whether or not what is alleged to be on those tapes is true, as a black man, i really don t care that much, don, at this point. we already have this lita
counselor, two, joseph kennedy, six. thank you, rachel. i appreciate it. margaret, you were interested in down ballot and it s interesting because there s a tie, right? there is a tie. i think how republicans have seen those of us republicans who have had a hard time supporting donald trump but care deeply about holding the united states senate are really looking to whether there were ballot splitters, ticket splitters. it was sort of settling down in the final days of the campaign as though ticket splitters in new hampshire were looking like they were voting clinton. i was interested to see that basically maggie, the sitting female governor of the state, and the female senator of the state seem to be neck and neck in the very first counting of the ballots in new hampshire. panel stand by. i want to bring in mark preston and ryan lizza and david