would not want to broadcast what it is they are planning to do, but i m sure they ve got plans. they ve said that they will respond. that nato and individual nations will respond to the use of these weapons. and david, you wrote a few days ago, the u.s., ukraine and nato have a secret weapon against russia. patience. yet we are seeing ukrainian towns just getting obliterated and hundreds, if not thousands of civilians being killed. so explain how you see the time on the side of the good guys here. well, actually, in the course of the article, what i was really doing was reporting back that my conversations with senior u.s. government officials suggested that they saw patience as a vital element here because, frankly, there are limits to how much they can escalate. what they want to do is squeeze russia with sanctions and that s going to take awhile to really kick in and put pressure on putin. and at the same time, provide enough weapons and support so
ukraine would be able to sustain this fight for as long as they have against the russians. so supplying ukraine with those weapons that they need is going to become a challenge moving forward. natasha and kaitlan collins, thank you very much. let s continue this conversation with former ambassador to ukraine, william taylor and david rothkoff, a columnist for the daily beast and usa today and host of a podcast. thank you for being here. as these meetings continue in brussels, beyond solidarity, beyond these new sanctions against russian government officials and russian defense officials, the commitment for more nato forces in eastern europe is another thing. what else could come from these important meetings, this big summit today? well, ana, the two big things, of course, are increasing the flow of weapons and president zelenskyy asked for that. you just reported on that. and decreasing the room that the russians have economically. so open the spigot of weapons
translator: after this one month of war with in a war with russia, please do not tell us that our army is not up to nato standards. we have shown what our standards are worth. how much we can give to the overall security of europe and the world, but nato is yet to show what nato can do to save people s lives and to show that they are indeed the most powerful defensive alliance in the world. david, so far, nato actions have hurt russia, but they haven t stopped putin in his invasion. is putin essentially testing the limitations of nato? well, i think at the moment, putin is dealing with a bunch of unexpected consequences. he didn t expect to be here a month after his invasion. i think he was told by his leading generals that they would be in and out and done very
to his credit that we have to make contingency plans if we are not done, we may have to do other things to protect our citizens. and i think there s a very substantial incentive for the taliban to enable us to get everybody out because so much of their economic resources are controlled in u.s. and allied banks, so much of their gdp is dependant on international capital flows, that we can apply pressure to them in ways that will make them go along with this. so, you know, they re managing this in exactly the right way. it s ugly, it s painful, but it s the best of all the options that are available to us right now. david rothkoff, laura jadid, thank you. coming up, there was not one
and over again over the course of the past two years, our question will mainstream republicans be ready to break publicly with this president because that s what it s going to take for there to be any political sustainable impeachment proceedings. that s what democrats are waiting for. i m not sure the served there yet that anyone is willing to take that public step yet. we ll see. i completely agree with you that nobody is going to be ready on the republican side yet to do that. matthew miller, let s move from the southern district of new york prosecution of michael cohen and quite possibly and indictment of the president of the united states to the other side of the investigation, the mueller investigation into russia, the president, of course, prematurely declaring that nothing has been found on him when, in fact, if you look at the axios thread this weekend and you look at david rothkoff s