regard for civilian life. they will continue terrorizing the population as means to increase its position of strength in negotiations with zelenskyy. and we didn t enforce a red line when we warned president asad of syria against using chemical weapons. and that s the history that president putin knows. so i wouldn t i believe that we should expect that and prepare for that. if i could go back to the messaing for just a minute, david, we learned wednesday that u.s. intelligence said vladimir putin isn t getting a true picture of what s happening on the battlefield. then this morning russian spokesman dmitry peskov responded to that it means that neither the state department nor the pentagon possess the real information about what is happening in the kremlin. they don t understand president putin. they don t understand the way we work. it is not just regrettable, it elicits concern because this complete lack of understanding leads to erroneous decisions, reck legislation decision
he summed it up in a video message overnight saying, if we really are fighting for freedom and in defense of democracy together, them we have a right to demand help in this difficult turning point tanks, aircraft, artillery systems. freedom should not be tyranny. hagar chemali joins us. david rogue is executive editor for newyorker.com. hagar, i think it s been extraordinary to watch along with the countries that i mentioned, zelenskyy addressing the swedish parliament, lawmakers in france and spain. this is just in the last week or so. but i guess the big question is, as effective as he has been, will that message of freedom being no worse than tyranny suddenly change some minds? well, he s certainly an
watching how russia bombarded syria and how russia lied about it and was a master manipulator in trying to justify attacks in syria, lying about targeting isis when they were in fact expect very similar behavior here. so turning point, that marntd be true. i m not on the ground. obviously, i can t say that. continuously okay. we have whatever he needs is important. we ll try to get your sound, which has been going in and out, corrected, hagar. but david, of course vladimir putin lies. he s always lied. and no one was surprised when we heard that vladimir putin wasn t being told the truth necessarily by the military leaders around him. they didn t want to say we re in trouble here, our folks are leaving, we re losing. but having said that, how do you view where this war is right now? do you think it is potentially at a turning point that the u.s. ought to look at providing more military assistance differently?
still troops in coast of all. but unfortunately, it worked. the taliban have outlasted the will of the united states. that was congressman adam kinzinger at air force revenue veteran who served in iraq and afghanistan. this week, president biden announced at the u.s. mission in afghanistan will end on august 31st. the original deadline, september 11th. more than 90%, nine zero, percent of u.s. personnel have already departed. but as american troops move out, the taliban are moving in, on the afghan government. they have seized about 120 districts since may 1st. joining us now is pulitzer prize-winning journalist, david rogue. he s the executive editor of the new yorker.com, an msnbc contributor. he s also the author of in deep, the fbi, the cia, and the truth about americas deep state. welcome. thank you, thanks jeff for having me here. your reaction to the way that this troop pull out is going? you were kidnapped by the
this cut from president biden about the future of afghanistan and the taliban. watch. is a taliban takeover of afghanistan now inevitable? the afghan troops have 300,000 well equipped, as well as any army in the world, and an air force. against something like 75,000 taliban. it is not inevitable. david, before we go, what do you make of? that is a taliban takeover of afghanistan inevitable now? i think it is certainly likely in the rapid pace of this withdrawal. certainly pulling all of the troops being taken out of the base that we ve held for so long, 20 years, bringing down morale amongst afghan security forces. it is how we conduct this withdrawal that matters, not simply just getting out as quickly as possible. david rogue, we appreciate you sharing your story, thanks very. much still to come, italy beat england in the euro 2020 soccer championship. but it still might be a win for