speak with the aids or note takers today. joining me now, david roe executive director for msnbc contributor also with me san roman at royal expert and trustee of the royal society of st. george. already, sandro, just seeing what is happening inside westminster abby it is incredible to watch this play out and then soon there will be so many world leaders in the same room. explain the significance of today in modern history? no figure in world history has been able to gather so many world leaders in one place one time but then there has never been anybody quite like queen elizabeth the second. these heads of states and politicians, they have power for a few years, she range for 70. she did it with dignity, with race, but also did it with decisive decision making that is something all the other world leaders admire they all
what we are going to get in the end is something somber, spectacular, and let s hope safe. because really, this is the biggest security challenge that britain has ever seen. it is indeed. with members of royal family s sitting up front ahead of world leaders who normally would be expected to be in those first rose, sensual mini, david roe, thank you so much, great conversation. we have much more royal coverage ahead live from london. ten days of national mourning come to a conclusion in the united kingdom today, as the queen is officially laid to rest, marking an end of an era for the british public. i am 75 now, and i can t remember anybody except the queen being there. queen being there. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. don t miss our weekend special. save 30% on the sleep number 360 we are life of buckingham special edition smart bed. ends monday.
personal bonds that would happen i don t see any major breakthroughs i think the cancellation of the meeting between biden and prime minister trust is to sort of avoid any sort of sign of disrespect of the queen or any sense that the relationship is off to a rocky start. i think in private, things can happen human contact we saw the beginning of the pandemic face to face human contact is something different and something special. so you understand, david, why they would not want to be overtly political because this is supposed to be a day and time and rightfully so for emphasis on the queen but do you think in some ways they are looking forward to this because they are in their everyday lives so tightly scheduled and so tightly scripted and surrounded by people all the time you are making no to whatever goes on that they will actually look forward to this opportunity to have some time where it is not quite like that? yes they might on the bus i
keeping these documents in his basement caused actual harm. so if avril haines and his review finds the source is compromised, or signals intelligence as was discovered, that is a critical part of convincing the jury to prosecute. i m, sorry to convict trump. otherwise he will, say i sat in my basement. his defense lawyers would say there is no real harm here. it is critical on multiple levels with the intelligence community finds. charlie, you tweeted in response to this, normally this would be a damage assessment, which they knew after a leak to the public or theft by i spy. but it is clear that the classified information was compromised. this is a risk assessment because it is unknown if any bad actor got to the docks or they just sat there and secure but on the lasted. i understand that the conversation between the two, may, as david just said, bear on what gets done with donald trump and what merrick garland does.
change. i disagree with david a little bit that there is a needs to show damage here. so the law is that the justice department is using, which were listed in a search warrant which came out two weeks ago. they do not require there to be damage to the national security. two of them are just about mishandling, concealing, government records. whether or not they were classified is just basically possession of theft of stolen property or concealing records to obstruction official effort like the official efforts to return these documents to where they needed to be. and the last one, the espionage act, has provisions were tension of dangerous information that could be used to help a foreign adversary in the united states. does not need to have actually done so to be the standards of that law. not a david needs my defense on this one, but part of the problem is a history of donald trump. the idea that we know he is closing up to kim jong-un at