attorney general garland should guide the investigation so that it is fair, focused, and within reason, fast. accountability should remain the priority and delivered according to the rule of law. joining me now to discuss this are caroline, an msnbc legal analyst and david rhoden msnbc contributor. great to have both of you with us. got lots of questions for both of you about where this could go. i will talk to you, carroll. some legal experts, including former trump attorney bill barr says there is a real chance of charges. at least that is what he is suggesting. what does this signal to you? we ll, if you really pay attention to what bill barr said carefully, if you really look at his words, he does what lawyers to. he qualifies them a lot. he says well, if they can show that the documents are serious documents which they appear to be, and if they can show that donald trump consciously withheld those from the department, then i believe there is probably a basis for bringing crimina
that was all what help the economy during the pandemic. the stakes are very high and this paralysis could be dangerous for the economy and for average americans. david, did you appease contrast with democrats this week could not be any more clear. you have the democratic parties generational leadership change, i would argue, that appears to be going off without a hitch. what do you make of how nancy pelosi and the others soon to be former leaders have handled the transition to this new generation, if you will? they ve handled it well. the democrats, abortion helped them, democracy on the ballot to help them. but there s one other large generational question, and i don t want to avoid it. joe biden. joe biden just turned 80 years old and there are many democrats who think he should not run for a second term, the new generation would be better equipped to combat donald trump as a republican nominee. ron desantis is a republican nominee. so that s the big question for
criminal investigations in the context of political considerations. a lot of prosecutors, we just two cases where a person cheats another person or murders another person or does something terrible to society. but we don t have to worry about is it a republican? isn t a democrat? i was just going to look within the political context? and that is what someone like jack smith, who has hated the public integrity unit of the department of justice is used to doing. and then he has prosecuted war criminals internationally, another similar type of environment. so i think it was the perfect background for somebody under the circumstances. and david, my question to you is, as someone who has been watching the mueller investigation with a sense of disappointment in terms of how it played out, not because of a lack of prosecutions against the former president but rather just the way it went out with a
investigate. if the special counsel wants to look at something else, here she has to come back to the attorney general and say i feel i need to expand my investigation. i don t see that happening here. and as david mentioned, this is a situation where the special counsel and the attorney general are dealing not with investigating the press president, but a certain party. it seems unlikely to happen here. all right, carol lam, thank you very much, david rohde, please take around we ll talk to you again. the gop is in a state of chaos in the only have themselves to blame. we will tell you about that. that. 5g network. so you can do more than connect your business, you can make it even smarter. now ports can know where every piece of cargo is. and where it s going. (dock worker) right on time. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a ver