so they ll get out there, and they don t want to escalate either. john: there was a local ordinance that was passed by a member of the city council by the name of david oh which would have increased the fines for people illegally squatting, $300 per day, given law enforcement more authority to deal with them, but another member of the city council passed another ordinance that basically gutted that one, and david oh said that he believes that his opponents, opponents to his bill believe that squatting is a way of dealing with the homeless crisis. is that true? yeah, if you go through any given city block there are more people that are homeless at this time, people living in huts or just living on the street in a sleeping bag. but still, at the same time, you can t really occupy people s houses that, you know, pay for these things every month and coming out of their pocket, i don t think they think of all