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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:09:48:00

i see another side of him. i can see through that tough exterior. they always feel like they hold that special key, that certain key to that person s real heart, which is, you know, they feel is a good heart. but inevitably, i think, that person will show his real self. in the case of david goodell, even though he has told us and he s said on camera, i m basically a good person, he s not. that doesn t mean he might not have a couple of good qualities. but at the end of the day, he calculated a murder and committed a murder and still feels justified in that murder. and i believe he would do it again, frankly, if he were out. i do love her? yeah, absolutely. i got a lot of love for her. loved ones in your life have paid a pretty big price for betraying your trust or how you perceive your trust being betrayed, right? would anything bad happen to judy at your hands? never. never. she s never done anything but be there for me. yet.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:09:42:00

dangerous and manipulative inmate. the only time he seemed to show any regret over killing his 21-year-old former girlfriend, vivianna tulli is when he was meeting with the case manager to prepare for his sentencing hearing in which he was facing anywhere from 30 to 45 years in prison. you know, i m sorry for what i did. but even then, he admitted, it was all for show. so that s what i m going to tell them. because my plea is open from 30 to 45. so if there s any type of way i can weasel my way out of a year or two, it s perfect. and if it doesn t work out, i tried. then we met someone else with an entirely different opinion of david goodell. judy, who asked that we not use her last name, is the mother of a woman goodell used to date and a frequent visitor. i have sort of become his advocate/surrogate mother and i m here to visit him. what did you do to yourself? what do you mean? you have no hair!

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:09:38:00

still can t see him. it s driving me nuts. ryan miller was later found guilty and sentenced to 37 years to life. deanna turner returned to prison for seven months for her probation violation and was then released. 2 1/2 years after our final shoot with turner, she was out of prison and told us her relationship with miller was continuing and that they planned to marry. coming up yeah, nobody understands nobody. whatever. and they never will. and that s okay. the woman who made a special connection with david goodell. and the dog who made a special connection with our production team.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:04:04:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:04:04:00
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151127:04:46:00

i mean, because you know what, it s like, what am i going to do? do you want me to sit her and lie to you? not going to do that? there s nothing nice about murder. no, there s nothing nice about murder. but there is a lot of nice about you, david. you could have shown them those parts. he told me, very explicitly, what had happened. almost too explicitly. and i told him, enough. i don t want to hear the specifics. to me, he qualifies as a sociopath. i want to know your opinion. that s very interesting, because to me, he does not qualify as a sociopath. to me, i see compassion in him. i m not denying that his acts certainly make him appear that way. i give him commissary money, maybe $200 a month. i ll put money on the phone, maybe another $50. it s not a hardship for me at this point and it s just part of my life and what i ll do, as long as i m able to do it. who are you when you look at yourself, who do you see? who do you see? who do i see? i see i mean, i see a good

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