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CNN Anderson Cooper 360 March 12, 2014 00:09:00

that s right, anderson. you don t know until you actually find the physical evidence. building on david s point, there are four competing theories of what s occurred here and we ve really got to look at all the facts whether it be terrorism, hijacking, pilot error or mechanical failure. at this point without any real physical evidence i think you ve got to look at all the people that are involved. three of those competing theories that are people that would have been involved in those first three and perhaps even in a mechanical failure there may be people involved. i think from an investigative perspective you ve got to look at who the people were, the people that were on the plane, the people that were on the ground, the pilots in that aircraft. and you ve got to chase those facts fully to try and develop this to full conclusion. but shawn, in terms of mechanical failure does it make sense that the transponder would be turned off? is that possible just with mechanical failure the

CNN Anderson Cooper 360 March 12, 2014 00:11:00

control. and that s the issue for the malaysians to start getting other people involved in the investigation. to start looking, getting other experts to review the radar tapes, to review making inquiries. whose radar was turned on that night? were there any war ships in the straits that had their radar turned on? we need to get as much evidence as possible from the radar to help us figure out where this plane is. david, you point out that the straits of malaka are relatively shallow. but if a plane turned and ended up in the open sea to the north even the depth there get much deeper. yeah. in the gulf of thailand and the southern parts of the straits it s fairly shallow. in fact it s shallower than the length of the plane. so if the plane was standing on its nose it would be sticking out of the water. but if you get into the andeman sea you re in 2 1/2 miles of water and that s a whole different ball game. at the end of the day, anderson, what it s going to come down to with no wit

CNN Anderson Cooper 360 March 12, 2014 04:07:00

the real problem in this so far, anderson, is how the investigation is being conducted. this is a military-led investigation. there are protocols and there s a treaty signed that should be governing this investigation that would allow other countries to step in and give assistance that we have a standing to do that. and so far the malaysians have chosen not to exercise that treaty. it s being run by the military. and we ve got real chaos. do we know why they haven t exercised that treaty? is it a point of pride? well, they re a signatory to the treaty. this is the international civil aviation organization annex 13. and if you have an accident, it sets out the protocols. the ntsb would be the american accredited representative there. they have not been involved yet in helping the malaysians. david, you say that this is turning to really one of the biggest mysteries of all time. are you encouraged by this new

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