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CNN Forensic Files July 19, 2014 07:37:00

of where the accident happened, but they can call in expertise from any country they wish. and i believe there is a party from britain, air accident investigation team, arriving there today. but quite what nail be able to do when they get there and whether they ll be able to do it safely, because obviously you don t want to put aviation experts into an unstable area where their own lives are at risk. i wanted to tell our viewers what they re seeing there is the team from osce, its spokesperson told us yesterday they did not have full access to the site, but the osce is not in the business of investigating plane crashes. no. one can only hope investigators might be received differently, but who knows until it happens. right. and then there is the business of figuring out with some degree of certainty at some point, david, whether or not a missile did take this plane down, as many are suggesting, including

CNN Forensic Files July 19, 2014 07:34:00

flight 17. a team of special investigators from malaysia has now arrived in ukraine s capital kiev, hoping to begin the process of hoping to find out just what happened to the jem jumbo jet. international monitors from europe say they will try again today to visit the site where the plane crashed. the osce members say they were met with some hostility from the pro-russia rebels and not given access to the full site on friday. let s bring in david deas once again, former spokesperson for international air accidents. thanks for being with us. let me ask you this because people have wondered since this crash happened a couple of days ago, who decides whether or not a route is safe over a conflict area? it s normally by the international aviation organizations who would make an assessment. and i think up to now, it has been thought that even if there was a danger on the ground, an aircraft at 33,000 feet was

CNN Forensic Files July 19, 2014 07:39:00

russian military aircraft. so, there have been incidents. but the perpetrators seem to have been conventional military forces whereas here it may be they re separatists guerrilla warfare, whatever you want to call them, not a conventional army. that makes it harder as well. david deas, thanks very much for your expertise and analysis on this important story. we continue our coverage here on cnn and cnn international. for malaysia airlines, this is the second passenger plane lost in just over four months. relatives of flight 17 victims showed up at the airport in kuala lumpur friday with questions about what happened to their loved ones? it s a daunting task for the airline to try to provide answers, especially after the disappearance of flight 370 back in march. andrew stevens is in kuala lumpur. reporter: in a neighborhood mosque they pray for the soul of the captain of flight mh17.

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