food/life cycle issue. that issue was sort of add addressed [ inaudible ] unfortunately we lost connection with david. let s try and see if we can get david back. it s a very important subject matter. there you are, david. we just lost you for a second. just try and pick up where you left off. what are some of the issues still dividing nations? i m sorry for that. some of the main issue is how people see plastic pollution. is it a waste issue, or is it something that needs to be addressed towards the food/life cycle? this was settled originally in the mandate that was given to address plastic pollution throughout the food/life cycle. but the big rift is really about should we try to better collect our waste, or is more about ending plastic production or not ending plastic production but capping plastic production. how far upstream should we go to effectively end plastic
contribution to the creation. these plastics wash upon our shores, threaten the livelihoods of our people, hinder our tourism and fisheries industries among others, and suffocate our ecosystems. joining me now is david azule, environmental lawyer and director at the center for international environmental law in geneva, switzerland. a very warm welcome to cnn. thank you for giving us some of your time. you were, i understand, at these u.n.-led negotiations in paris, and i believe you led your organization of environmental lawyers at these talks. what are still some of the stumbling blocks that need to be overcome? what is still causing a lot of countries not to see eye to eye on this very important issue? well, good morning, and thanks for having me. i think there are quite a lot of questions that are still unresolved, and we re still quite early in the negotiation. part of the main rift is about how people see plastic pollution, whether it is a waste issue or whether it is a
find it less in the environment. and briefly if you can, david, at the start of our conversation, we heard from the representative of samoa describing how acute the situation is in their country. what can be done right now? well, it depends who the question is directed to. for consumers, there are quite a number of ways to use less plastic. but the real thing that needs to be done is we need to produce less of it because as much as we produce, every parts of plastic that we produce, will find its way into the environment or into our bodies. so if we re serious about ending plastic pollution, this is what we can really do now. david azoulay, thank you so much for joining us. thank you. and still ahead, we go live to mars sort of. i ll explain when we come back. . yep, them too. it s an invigorating rush.