dangers of concussions. among the 4,000 people suing are families of dave duerson and junior seau. their brains showed signs of concussions and both took their own lives. we are following in this morning. reporter: good morning, carol. and i am right in front of the courthouse. i ve got to tell you, this will be quite a showdown there is a long line at the courthouse this morning. they started lining up at least half an hour ago. the hearing isn t until 10:00. and what s at issue here is not necessarily the facts which makes is so fascinating. it s whether the lawsuits will even continue. the nfl is saying, listen this is not the right place to litigate this case, because everyone, all of these players, part of cba, collective bargaining agreement. this case should be ar by traited and players are saying, uh-uh.
it just doesn t work. any, whatever helps, you look at dave duerson, you look at juni junior seau, you go, okay, something needs to be done. a new era in the nfl in terms of worrying about player safety. i wonder why concussion reduction language was taken off. does the work? that will open you up to all sorts of liability. the testing showed it does or it doesn t. i guess difficult. i guess whatever it helps. the guys. all cheering on our teams sunday, super bowl. the tolls the guy put on their body. put their lives on the line. think about that over your chicken wings and pizza. we will be back. chicken wings and pizza. we will be back. chicken wings and pizza. we will be back. and did you see the magic eraser clean up that crazy kitchen mess? it was like super dirty, super clean. how? wish i hadn t. [ sniffs ] what s that amazing smell? it s mr. clean with the amazing scent of gain.
material to protect athletes from head to toe. the guy would have you believe it is his magical material. there is nothing magical about it. reporter: dave is an engineer, technical director at southern impact research center one of the leading testing labs for sports equipment in the nation. among many others things he tests helmets. lots of helmets. you say concussion reduction technology, is that what you are doing? our claim is that we help reduce the possibility of head injury. that s our claim. we never mention the word concussion. reporter: after our interview, unequal technology sent us what they say will be their new packaging for their product. the words concussion reduction technology have been removed. for so many football players the risk is real. players and parents want answers. but right now, they aren t out there. that magic bullet, that if you just do this, you can continue to play the way you are and you re immune from injury.
place. the problem is when did the head injuries start? did they start in peewee football? did they start in high school or college football. it is tough to pin it on the national football league. as far as duerson, there was brain damage and that caused his tragic death when he killed himself. junior seau all the preliminary reports i heard and said there wasn t any brain damage. this is a very difficult issue for the national football league. this is difficult time for the kansas city chiefs and obviously domestic violence can never be condoned and miss perkins is really the victim here. martha: indeed she is. that is so true. there is another issue that has come up in all of this and that is from bob costas, veteran sportscaster who made some personal comments in quoting someone else. he talked about his own feelings on gun control. i want to play that for you and get your thoughts because we got a lot of feedback on this morning. you want some actual
so i don t put a whole lot of credibility into that because we re not hearing from any people directly involved in his life that was the case. so i would caution everybody at this time not to jump into that direction until we have all the information and there s an investigation and we know exactly what was going on with him. martha: yeah. as far as as concussions playing football it is an issue but there was no indication he was sufficienting from that at this time. martha: you think of the stories that could be similar. as you point out we don t know yet whether they are. junior seau and dave duerson do you think it is an issue, it is a problem in the game? well, there s a lawsuit of several thousand players that is taking place now between the national football league and its former players. so, yes, there is an issue here and it is going to be adjudicated in the courts as to whether or not the nfl knew in fact a lot of these head injuries were