have. here they use the term sensitive but unclassified information. that is a category of government information that is entitled to heightened protection. given some of the allegations that have been made over the years about donald trump and how he reveals information, addresses witnesses, they have a heightened concern here. trump and nauta have consented to this protective order. to me, the biggest message is, things are moving very quickly. that s the reputation of this southern district of florida. it s known in legal circles as a rocket docket. doy i doj is ready to turn over information and get moving with the case. dave aaronberg, you are with us as well. they are ready to provide unclassified discovery. this is still very sensitive information. isn t it? it is.
of course the doj, the d.a. there and the doj is considering its own case in investigation of the former president in his involvement of january 6th, and the pictures there you are seeing e. jean carroll as she arrived at the courthouse. again, we have a great deal to consider. dave aaronberg is joining us here. and the first question, and again, two minutes before the verdict is read. are you surprised how quickly the jury came to a decision here in this case? you know, nothing ever surprises me about jurors, but the only thing predictable about juries is that they are notoriously unpredictable. the quick verdict is that trump is going to be found liable here, because i can t imagine that after all of the evidence, and trump doesn t even show up, that are going to say, no, he didn t do it, and they will get him on the highest charge, and
mucinex dm. it s comeback season. we re expecting alex murdaugh to be back on the stand in minutes for the beginning of the cross examination from prosecutors after hours of questioning by his defense team there. let s bring back in our reporters and analysts, diane gallagher, jean casarez and dave aaronberg. dave, i want to pick up on a point you left off on about what he s admitting to. he s admitted to lying and cheating and stealing. he s also an attorney who knows how to perform before a jury. this is similar to the questions we had, in very different context, amber heard and johnny depp. these were performers.
being charged. no charges and no more comment. so we re not going to hear and we shouldn t be hearing about how he might have been 50% guilty. the doj doesn t charge him, and they shut up. dave, what does it mean that one of the participants in the trip across state lines, which i think is what made it fall into the federal jurisdiction in the first place was convicted with the same crime with the same person and they had the goods, how do you avoid the perception that i think fritz is alluding to that doj flinched when it was a more powerful person? well, you know, it s a good point, nicolle. it s not good for optics. joel greenberg confessed, he admitted it. that s why they re able to get a conviction against him. he went down for 11 years. remember, he could have gotten life if prison. child sex trafficking was the big whammy. greenberg cooperated so much and ratted out so many people that
and i m not going to accuse the department of justice of blinking here because of the nature of the testimony they would have had to rely on. this is part of the problem that sleazy characters will often surround themselves with other sleazy characters who make for questionable witnesses and, right now, that s working in matt gaetz s favor. last question for you, dave. would it have been something they looked at that matt gaetz was concerned enough to have a federal pardon, did they look at it and find he committed so many crimes, it wasn t for child sex trafficking? it s a good point, why would you ask for a pardon unless you were guilty of something. he asked for a complete pardon because it wasn t just child sex trafficking here, it was witness tampering, campaign finance violations. antiprostitution law. identity theft, and it looks like he s going to be able to skate on all of them, and yeah, because he s a member of congress, they were extra