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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210531 06:54:00

if he wanted to help his daughter meghan, he had to ask cara. like, i once needed help with a deposit for my phone and he had to call and have a conversation over $100, just to help me out. and so he was like, yeah, cara said okay. and it s like, okay, thanks. meghan s mom, and j.j. s first wife, sherry tribby, said it was always like that with cara. once when meghan was in elementary school, i didn t have the money to buy her shoes. so, i asked john so help me and he was reluctant, reluctant at first and then he finally helped me but when he did, he said, don t tell cara. but cara said, she had her reasons. he couldn t have his own bank account. he couldn t have credit cards. he couldn t have an account with me off of it. that, she said, was because of his gambling addiction. but addiction? j.j. s family said he liked to go to the track and play cards, but he was far from being addicted. if he went out somewhere with somebody and bought something, i mean, would you nee

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210531 07:47:00

there. but the idea that was a suicide note? ludicrous, said the prosecution. could have been written years earlier, probably was. after all, why would he ask cara to take care of meghan? she was an adult, living on her own, when j.j. was killed. and j.j. was over the moon with his new life with a new woman, so those expressions of love, highly unlikely at the time of his death. anyway, with that, it was over. cara had done all she could to make her case. what was it like when that jury went out? i knew it was in god s hands. there s nothing i could do. now, my attorney looked like somebody had punched him in the gut, but i was just an eerie calm. meghan was anything but calm as the jury deliberated. it was nerve-wracking. i was, like, wondering what they were talking about.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20210531 07:26:00

meghan told the jury how he had to sneak around with his own daughter. he would give me money in gas gift cards or grocery gift cards, to make it look like he had bought gas or had bought groceries because if he took cash out or money out to give me, it would cause some type of ordeal. but his new love, lonnie lancto, told the jury about that change in j.j. as soon as he left cara. his relationship with his daughter was so much better because he didn t have to answer to why he was talking to her, what was it about, what did she want? wait a minute. he had to answer for what he how he talked to his daughter? oh, absolutely. that was a big deal. j.j., she said, loved his newly found freedom. he was so excited. he was so happy to not have to answer to someone for every single thing he did or said. and lonnie also told the jury that all hell broke loose after j.j. cut off his financial ties to cara. the week he died, i helped him get bank accounts away from her.

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