the oath keepers and rhodes himself even provided an interview to the fbi. if convicted the charge carries up to 20 years in prison. paula reid, thank you. let s go to cnn s ed lavandera in plano, texas, just outside dallas, where the leader of the oath keepers just appeared in court. ed, you were able to watch this hearing. walk us through what happened. well, it was a brief hearing. stewart rhodes showing up in a dark t-shirt and jeans before the judge. he waived his right to have the 48-page indictment read out loud in the courtroom, but attorneys for stewart rhodes say right now they are focused on getting him out of jail while he awaits trial. the judge has announced next thursday they ll hold a detention hearing where they can present evidence to determine whether or not stewart rhodes will be held in jail and confined until his trial. he s facing five federal