treat this like the national security risk that it is. emily: to jackie s point, it s an american issue, not a partisan issue. i echo everything kennedy said. we are so honored to have you on the couch today, truly. i consider you a lighthouse in that darkness of tech. as your role as a lighthouse, what would you say that you are hearing with so many people that come to you with their stories and experiences? we know that in china past 2017 it is a law that you must cooperate with the ccp and transfer data to them as a company and as a person. so when you say you focus on human rights issues, it is so admirable in human. but it intertwines politically because the ccp is who is engaging in those violations. what are your experiences in that department? enes: whenever i had a conversation with someone from that area, they said the chinese government had to make them download this app on their phone. and they listen to every where