not mean that african-americans that were there or are there now do not give any advice. jeronek smith, mary elizabeth tailor, her office is in the east wing which is as close to the west wing as you can get. she has been appointed to be the next assistant secretary. you have dariun, you have jonathan hollyfield executive director for hbcus. jonath jonathan ho jonathan holyfield, it is a very prestigious commission to have the program there, and there are a lot more, there are at least seven others now, it s across the administration.