later than previously known. can t be sure the exact date, but the president can remember having conversations with him about it. throughout 2016. yeah, probably up to, could be up to as far as october, november. our answers cover until the election. all right. we already knew that michael cohen lied to congress when he claimed talks ended january, 2016, but congressional democrats say giuliani s new admission could be a game changer. that is news to me. and that is big news. why two years after the fact are we just learning this fact now? when there s been this much inquiry. if those negotiations were on going while up to the election, i think that s a relevant fact for voters to know. and that s not all giuliani revealed in today s sunday confessional, otherwise known as the sunday talk show circuit for him. joining me now is dannisy value is and david priest the former