i want to bring the panel into this. this is probably of all the states in the world this would have been the last state that anyone expected. is that what it is going to take? is that what it takes to break the danm on marriage equality? we saw this in iowa. you know utah yes, it is a conservative state but it has pockets of progressivism. salt lake city has pockets i ve been there many times. there are lots of gay and lesbian people that have been campaigning and working really hard to push pro gay legislation. there is a political base for this. when you think about marriage it is a conservative institution.