And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Tavis joe biden arrived in kiev earlier today. Shootout in Eastern Ukraine left several people dead. Back with us to discuss the latest developments is robert english. Dr. English, good to have you back. I wish under different circumstances. Fallour hopes rise and when you heard about this fragile peace . Or did you not buy it from the beginning . My hopes rose and they are still up there. I do not think this spasm of violence is the end of the process. What joe biden says to the Ukrainian Government right now and back channel negotiations have good potential for diffusing things. Tavis what do you think joe biden will say . Publicly, he has to be tough, to provide moral support to the Ukrainian Government. Ivy league, he needs to tell them the process of privately, he needs to tell them the process takes greater account of the rights of these autonomous regions, it has to go forward. State. Is a unitary most pe
And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Tavis there have been five epics where catastrophic events have wiped out life on earth. The fifth extinction was caused by an asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs. Elizabeth kolbert who covers the environment for the new yorker says were living in the middle of another mass extinction, this one, though, caused by human activity. Her tome is called the sixth extinction, an unnatural istory and the result of years of research. Elizabeth, thanks for being on the program. Thanks for having me. Tavis starting in an unlikely place which is this notion of why there is so much debate. You have scientists, you have researchers, you have best selling texts about the reality of what were enduring today and yet on capitol hill and beyond because this obviously connects with the politics of our time, there is still so much debate about it and depending on what point of view one wants to hear, one can find a congressman, a senat
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