here. dana, that is college basketball. dana: sayings. jesse: pizza hut is the official pizza of march madness. they came out with some shoes. pizza hut high tops. you see the red, marinara splash. there is a cheese grater. when you push the button on the tongue, it orders a pizza to wherever you are. if you re watching march madness, you hit the button on the tongue and a pizza gets delivered. go to pizzahut.com, download the app. bluetooth compatible. i don t even know what that means. you hit the button and you get the pizza and if you hit the other button on the other tongue of the shoe, it pauses the game for you. you can enjoy your pizza and finish watching the game. kimberly: i can t believe you didn t put them on. juan: he did. greg: where is the pizza?
larger witches separating parents from families and children. it picked up on something that resonates with the broader public, the way the i.c.e. agents operate. they look like they are above the law. in this case they are separating a mother from her children. greg: a smuggler from her children. juan: i don t know what she is. dana is right to point out come of this awful charge of human smuggling with that doesn t excuse the behavior of i.c.e. agents. i don t think we want to see police or anybody acting in that fashion. dana: i don t think it was that bad. i understand ripping a mother away from her children but in this case, the mother put the children in a bad position. jesse: it is the mom s fault she was hauled off like that. don t do the crime if you can t do the time, juan. do you want to be treated equally under the justice system? listen, i believe the i.c.e. agents.
that s an interesting question. dana: that s a bad hypothetical. she didn t break any laws. kimberly: disqualified herself because dana: obviously this is not an easy topic. the things these agencies are asked to do is not easy. do you think they want to do this? the notion that somehow gitmo or these black tights fueled more anger against western civilization is preposterous. jesse: after these enhanced interrogations were no longer used, the rise of isis sprung up right after. dana: it s an ideology. jesse: the other thing is juan: what does that have to do with anything? jesse: you said when we were interrogating people and a rough way that was making them hate us even more. you just set it.
like a distinction without a difference but let me tell you if you are in the cia, do you have reason to believe the congressional members of congress who are going to use this for decades. now we are 17 years after the fact and they still want to pick at this scab and not allow a woman who has an amazing record of public service to be able to serve? that really chaps my hide. if there are clear reasons she should not be allowed to run this department that have nothing to do with her work, that has not been question. the program does not exist anymore. that to me, if there is a substantial reason, fine. let s have that discussion. but this grandstanding is despicable. greg: i think chapping your hide is worse than waterboarding, from what i understand. dana: you could make that case. honestly, sleep deprivation, pulling out fingernails.
responsibility so we didn t have to. she responded not just of the worst attack on our country since pearl harbor but to a world ending threat. sure, it s easy to say it, but we are better than that. from a shiny newsroom. if you think whatever she did was wrong, what s your alternative? do you have anything beyond don t do that. have you thought this through? here s a question for haspel s critics. would you consider with everything that s considered mean be off the table? something tells me you would rather leave the question of the people like gina haspel. dana, you know this story probably better than anybody. they keep calling this torture. do they have a reason to call it torture? dana: it is their personal opinion. there has never been a legal opinion. three attorneys general have