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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110917:21:03:00

steal your credit card and banking information to go on shopping sprees with your money. right now they re buying and selling personal identities. i started the search for wendy after i saw something most americans never see. we have her credit card number, expiration, mother s maiden name. internet security expert dan clements took us on a tour inside illegal underground internet chat rooms. social security number, date of birth, and pin. where we watches in amazement as computer hackers and identity thieves actually bought and sold your most personal information. they re selling log-ins to bank accounts. barclays, wells fargo, hsbc. all the large banks are here to be bought and sold. so somebody could get this information, log on to someone s account and take their money. drain their account. and clements says the thieves don t need to steal your actual credit card anymore. they just need the information. so if a hacker can crack a computer at a bank or store, he

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110917:20:13:00

confront the thieves face to face. to catch an identity thief we ll need some bait. so we hit a major credit card issuer to cooperate. we make up names and they give us real cards under those fake names. the next step, asking dan clements to go back into the internet underground, pretending to be a thief who stole our credit cards, is about to put them into the thieves market. put it in here. 300, 400 hackers in realtime. reporter: dan clements and i are watching at the card cops office in california. you ready? ready. reporter: halfway across the country a fraud investigator for the credit card company is standing by. her computer will tell her every time our bait cards are used to make a fraudulent purchase. we even have a stopwatch to measure the time second by second. clements tells us this is something that s never been done before.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110917:20:35:00

turns out paul is engaged to two different women on opposite sides of the country. and who knows how many others in between. so why would international thieves want to trick women into accepting and reshipping so many packages? experts say it s because many american retailers refuse to ship overseas. so to collect their loot the identity thieves need a middleman, a so-called drop, somebody in the united states who can accept the delivery and then forward the stolen merchandise. that s apparently how people like vicki and angela are being used. we got some cardable sites. reporter: and if a thief doesn t already have a drop site, dan clements says it s easy to buy one in one of those criminal chat rooms. here i m saying, you want a valid credit card? give me a drop. reporter: in the thieves market, we negotiate to buy a drop address, where the criminals tell us we can send stolen merchandise.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110917:20:14:00

kind of like throwing tuna to the sharks. and we ll see what happens. all right. let s do it. reporter: we test the waters as clements, pretending to be a thief, offers to sell some of our bait cards. i m going to hit the stopwatch, and we re going to see how long it takes before somebody hits on it. reporter: the response is almost instantaneous. somebody saying, hey, bro. 12 seconds. reporter: at first the thieves appear to be feeling us out to see if we re for real. we have another one. nitro 81 just said howdy. 26 seconds. reporter: but it doesn t take long for the thieves to take the bait and start making purchases with our cards. they re hitting it. reporter: at the credit card monitoring center, the fraudulent charges are beginning to roll in. at first, they re small charges to make sure the card works. they checked it for a dollar. reporter: for a dollar? they re just probing to see if it will work? right. reporter: they even make a small d

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