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the nothing burger. let s bring in matthew miller. for this block he joins our panel of dan balls, washington post, susan glasser from the new yorker. and kapur. matthew we have got you here, we are going to enact with you, you are an expert on how the justice department works. any parallel of a etd mooing like this in your time while you were at justice? no, of course the president of the united states wasn t under investigation for obstructingious and potentially cooperating with a foreign power. no, there aren t a lot of parallels. i can tell you generally how we interacted with the white house. whefrs this was a he question of a criminal investigation, let s say the justice department was investigating a corporation, vetting a mafia family we never talked to the white house about those investigation. they never talked to us about those investigations we never talked to the white house about those investigations. we were always clear, as hard a line as that was, had this ever

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