facing further proceedings in multiple court, including in new york. all right. dale ho thank you on this last-minute making some time for us. i appreciate it. thank you so much. joining me now former secretary of labor robert reich and former republican congressman david jolly, now msnbc political analyst. david, we ve got tanks positioned outside the lincoln memorial for $100 million essentially trump campaign rally for his top donors while he is contradicting his own doj and wants to run rough shot over the supreme court. as we are celebrating the deck lace of independence, there is a little bit of a mad king feel to where we are right now. oh, certainly, oh, certainly. look, he is contradicting his staff attorneys. the reality is i think bill barr told the president you do have a lane here to win this. and look, chris, i agree with everything you and dale just discussed. but i also would say, and i hate to be the skunk at a party, i think the government, the trump administr
though he had no idea how. quote, the tweet this morning was the first i had heard of the president s position on this issue, just like the plaintiff s. and your honor, i do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the president has tweeted. but obviously, as you can imagine, i am doing my absolute best to figure out what s going on. after the doj attorney asked for some more time, judge george hazel asked in exasperation, quote, if you were facebook and an attorney for facebook told me one thing, and then i read a press release from mark zuckerberg from somewhere else, i would be demanding mark zuckerberg be in court with you the next time because i would be saying i don t think you speak for your client anymore. i want to turn now to dale ho, one of the attorneys who argued the supreme court case on the citizenship question. dale, you re an attorney in the new york case. that transcript of a phone call with a judge was from maryland.
say unequivocally 100% this question will not be on the 2020 census that they re going to be facing further proceedings in multiple court, including in new york. all right. dale ho thank you on this last-minute making some time for us. i appreciate it. thank you so much. joining me now former secretary of labor robert reich and former republican congressman david jolly, now msnbc political analyst. david, we ve got tanks positioned outside the lincoln memorial for $100 million essentially trump campaign rally for his top donors while he is contradicting his own doj and wants to run rough shot over the supreme court. as we are celebrating the deck lace of independence, there is a little bit of a mad king feel to where we are right now. oh, certainly, oh, certainly. look, he is contradicting his staff attorneys. the reality is i think bill barr told the president you do have a lane here to win this.
citizenship question. dale, you re an attorney in the new york case. that transcript of a phone call with a judge was from maryland. what the heck is going on? what is the position of the department of justice now? well, it appears that the department of justice has a hard time understanding its own position right now, chris. just yesterday, the same lawyer was asked point-blank by judge hazel whether or not the decision to print the 2020 census forms without a citizenship question was a, quote, final decision, whether it was, quote, once and for all, and whether it was not just a matter of well, we re printing it now, but we might revisit it later.
mean no one maybe even including the president really knew what that meant. was he saying he was going to ignore an order from the supreme court? then things got even more surreal. in federal court this afternoon, a doj lawyer said the justice department would attempt to follow trump s dictate by tweet, though he had no idea how. quote, the tweet this morning was the first i had heard of the president s position on this issue, just like the plaintiff s. and your honor, i do not have a deeper understanding of what that means at this juncture other than what the president has tweeted. but obviously, as you can imagine, i am doing my absolute best to figure out what s going on. after the doj attorney asked for some more time, judge george hazel asked in exasperation, quote, if you were facebook and an attorney for facebook told me one thing, and then i read a press release from mark zuckerberg from somewhere else, i would be demanding mark zuckerberg be in court with you the next time bec