decide between continuing with obamacare the way it is and trying to supplement it so it doesn t go under or going back the way we were i d be for going back the way we were and then start the process of the reform of the existing health care system and i think more people are better off that way. i want to get you on the record here. so you think the health care system before the affordable care act with no changes, back to that, is superior to the one we have now? absolutely i believe that. let me ask you this and left us a foundation where we can start to improve our health care and delivery system. let me ask you this. the t that steve scalise and paul ryan and others in leadership are making is that everyone will roll over. that they re going to basically make you walk the plank on this. they won t listen to anything you say. they won t take changes and mccarthy was clear about that today. they re going to make you vote for this bill whether you like it or not. are you
bill this afternoon. congressman, you re a yes on this bill i take it? i was a yes in committee today based upon the bill as it exists today and we ve just completed a 27-hour marathon committee hearing. why are you rushing so fast? i don t think we re rushing. it came out of energy and commerce and out of ways and means but now, chris it goes to the budget committee and it these go through the budget committee and then the rules committee and then it s put on the floor and whatever we do goes to the senate. how many hearings open hearings with witness testimony and the like have you had on this bill? we ve had a series of hearings over the last several years on the affordable care act no, in this congress. how many hearings in this congress on this bill? we have gone to the american people with paul ryan s better way and we campaigned on the fact that we were going to improve the system and i think that s what we ve done. i get that but there s legislative language
it will cause in some cases death, in other cases bankruptcies like we used to see with regularity prior to the passage of these health reforms and it will impact every american so part of it is engaging the people on this but while but those engagements have to turn into votes at some point. absolutely. unless ron johnson hears those folks, your colleague in wisconsin who was just reelected, unless he hears those votes and thinks i don t want to vote for this aca bill so there s a couple of things and i suspect chris shares my experience of republicans in the senate quietly to us saying, you know, this isn t quite working out the way we thought and we are hearing from our constituents and they are nervous. we need to make sure because they can repeal it with a simple majority through the reconciliation process they can t replace it with just 51 votes. and trump is screwing this
finding their voice, telling their own stories. i had there were several rallies across the state of wisconsin but i attended one where person after person shared what this would mean to them, the harm it would cause. it will cause in some cases death, in other cases bankruptcies like we used to see with regularity prior to the passage of these health reforms and it will impact every american so part of it is engaging the people on this but while but those engagements have to turn into votes at some point. absolutely. unless ron johnson hears those folks, your colleague in wisconsin who was just reelected, unless he hears those votes and thinks i don t want to vote for this aca bill so there s a couple of things and i suspect chris shares my experience of republicans in the senate quietly to us saying, you know, this isn t quite working out the way we thought and we
i think in the long-term executive order won t be the ult mates solution. i think it s a necessary first step. the president has the legal authority to take such action. a lot of ways the president can act. he can use prosecutorial discretion, use some sort of parole discretion. and there s other ways the president can actually move on this as he did before in 2012 with the daca bill. i think congress has shown, at least the senate part, there s a willingness, legislatively, to do something. and the only person really who is stopping any kind of change from happening is john boehner. john boehner would stop filing frivolous lawsuits and shutting down government we could get something done on one piece of legislation that the american people want. you may have read the article. president obama delayed any potential changes to the deportation policy to allow house gop leaders time to bring legislation to the floor this summer. but if republicans don t act in