to robert mooueller, you think? absolutely it does. after all, he charged paul manafort for witness tampering for merely reaching out to witnesses and refreshing their recollection. refreshing their recollection. i like that phrase. it wouldn t just be the tweets. it would be a pattern of conduct and things that robert mueller knows behind the scenes, evidence he s obtained from e-mails and testimony. he s putting it all together to see if there s a pattern of obstruction of justice and witness tampering. do you think that s part of what we ll see here from robert mueller, whether it s in weeks, months? i ll ask you both quickly. i do think that. i think we re focusing now on collusion, but obstruction is still hanging out there. cynthia? absolutely. thanks to both of you. up next, the cia director has finally briefed some senators on the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi, and they are not pleased. will there ever be unified calls for accountability from congress o
and no good lawyer can represent him under these circumstances. so then senator mark warner, ranking democrat on the senate judiciary committee added, this is serious. but the president s personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, says there s nothing to worry about. according to giuliani, the president was simply encouraging roger stone not to lie. back with me, nbc news intelligence and national security reporter ken dilanian, and cynthia oxnay, nbc legal analyst. neal was on morning shows this morning. let me play his argument, and i ll get your reaction on the other side. it sure looks like when you read that tweet and when you read it next to the other one tweeted right alongside it the minute before about michael cohen and how the book should be thrown at him, this is not the way any ordinary investigation proceeds unless you re dealing with, you know, the mob or something like that. and that is the way the
president is talking, which is you know, it would be a sure shame if you cooperated with the government. bad stuff happens to those who cooperate, and good stuff happens to those like roger stone who stay silent. cynthia, he makes an argument for witness tampering, but is it maybe arguable? is that a question that s still hanging out there? and is it a step too far to suggest the president is behaving like a mob boss here? well, i have two thoughts about it. first, about george conway, i think it s rude that he does that to his wife and the mother of his children. as a mother of four myself, i would not appreciate if my husband did this, and i don t think it s right. even though i agree with him and it s titillating and all very exciting because he s agreeing with me, i think it s rude. you could also say that kellyanne conway, having known her for many years, can certainly stand up for herself. certainly, but it s the mother of your children. you re putting her in a bad posi