time about the increasing polarisation and conflict on the roads, which is really worrying, it is concerning. sometimes there is a media narrative to try to pitch people who drive and cycle is two separate groups. your other guest is the representative from motoring organisation who cycles and i am a cycling representative who often drives. we are not separate beings only travelling in one way. some of the reporting to try to create a polarisation as a news story sometimes it fosters an impatience and intolerance on the roads. that is detrimental to road safety and can cost lives. really important to try to move on from that. let can cost lives. really important to try to move on from that.- try to move on from that. let me brina try to move on from that. let me bring even try to move on from that. let me bring even at try to move on from that. let me bring even at this try to move on from that. let me bring even at this point. - try to move on from that. let me bring even at thi