communi community. a lot of it is secure. as it should be. as it should be. you re right. the president-elect is showing how vulnerable we ve been from cyber security attacks for years. also showing our standing in the international community has fallen. we ve got to take direct action to not only secure our borders, but to secure cyber security and again be the leader that the rest of the world is seeing us to be. i m just saying, when they come to him and meet with him, and as you know, it s on the president-elect to meet with the intel communities. he suggested they re delaying the meeting. he s saying that s not true. i don t understand why he would want to alienate the men and women that keep us safe. this ethics turn around yesterday where they voted 119-74 to pass it, what made you guys turn around on this? was it the pressure from constituents saying don t do this? i know you re very responsive to your constituents. thank you, chris. that was a great deal of it.
deputy advisor to president clinton. both of you before i ask you a question i want to make it clear. this is a debate we keep having. everyone believes if russia did in fact hack and effect the outcome of our elections it s a bad thing and they need to be sanctioned. i will start with you, congressman, don t we need to have the hard proof, the evidence first? well, i think it s also important to know what they re actually accused of. they did not hack into our voting systems. they hacked people s emails who were involved in the political process like john podesta. it s important, it s noteworthy. but it really follows a long string of cyber security attacks that they have been launching, that their agents have been launching against our government, against businesses for years and years. and now all of a sudden just as he is leaving office, president obama issues sanctions which i think really don t amount to much because if you look at a lot of those entities, many of those entitie
clinton. both of you before i ask you a question i want to make it clear. this is a debate we keep having. everyone believes if russia did in fact hack and effect the outcome of our elections it s a bad thing and they need to be sanctioned. i will start with you, congressman, don t we need to have the hard proof, the evidence first? well, i think it s also important to know what they re actually accused of. they did not hack into our voting systems. they hacked people s emails who were involved in the political process like john podesta. it s important, it s noteworthy. but it really follows a long string of cyber security attacks that they have been launching, that their agents have been launching against our government, against businesses for years and years. and now all of a sudden just as he is leaving office, president obama issues sanctions which i think really don t amount to much because if you look at a lot of those entities, many of those entities don t even have u.s. holdi
happened under president obama s watch. he had to send a message that he will not tolerate the cyber security attacks. it is not poe lit sized. i served in his staff as campaign director in 2008, and then i served under him when he was my commander and chief in the army. i feel like he is just looking out for us. but it cut put the president-elect in a difficult situation. he reverses the sanctions and it puts in jeopardy his restart and going down a new road with them. i suppose. listen, if he has been our protector in chief, he did a lousy job for cyber security. we knew about this, they let us
welcome president jinping this week, the u.s. economy is arguably more dependent on china than when mr. obama took office, as judged by our overall trade deficit, the composition of our export market or chinese holdings of u.s. treasury bonds. such trends led michael pillsbury to write about china s ability to export in global power. our efforts to improve their human rights record and turn to democracy elections, stopping the cyber security attacks. this long list of issues. we just don t have the leverage we had back in the 80s when we did not use it. we were too optimistic china would turn out all right. now what leverage the u.s. has is discouraging u.s. reforms. it puts enormous strain on