former cia director john brennan. we now know it had a powder and there was in that nevl pyrotechnic power believed to be from a pipe bomb. anything that tells you about the suspect? that s readily available. people have, you know, fireworks. they can use those in these devices. for law enforcement, that s a real problem. actually, commercially made explosives are actually more reliable and easier to deal with. in fact, the only atf employee i know ever killed in a bombing situation was killed dealing with the detonation of fireworks. so that is just basically fireworks powder? it could be. we ll have to see. that s why we ve got it, it hasn t exploded. we won t eventually have to guess about that. the laboratory will in fact know exactly the device. some fireworks, there s a small amount of gun powder.
you could extract the gun powder and turn that into a device? i want to be clear. there have been many ways. people in the past have emptied rounds of ammunition, cut up fireworks, and sometimes when authorities describe the crudeness of it, you know, they use terms to describe that, you know, someone didn t go out and buy explosives or steal military explosives. that being said, all of these have the potential to do harm, to injure people. to maim people. and certainly, to scare people, which might be the intent in this case. commissioner safer, you raised the possibility earlier, just a moment ago, about again, this is the possibility because you have to be prepared for everything. that an attack like this or series of attempted attacks like this could presage something bigger. a test run, that kind of thing. is there precedent for that in investigations you have overseen