diplomacy. but if, as it now seems quite likely, or at least the president seems to think so, a full invasion is imminent, that window seems to be closing rapidly. and the msnbc news reporter matthew wagner joins me from moscow. matthew, thank you so much for joining us tonight. there is a lot of talk about folks that are in russia, and whether scene on russian media, because that is also seen as an indicator of which way things are going. tell us about what things are like there right now. thank you, chris, i think we rightfully pay tension to the russian media, because it s kind of been potentially, the missing ingredient here, if you will. you see russia s amassed a military force, the kinetic for us to do what it we all fear in my two. we haven t been seeing a narrative, but in the past 12 to 24 hours we have seen that narrative emerge. actually, in a rather spectacular way this afternoon, this evening here in russia. things that you didn t hear when biden spoke. the rubble leade
cbs news, reporting in crimea years ago when it was seized by the russians. and they both join me now. julia, everyone that i trust, who are close followers of russia, russian speakers and reporters, are extremely alarmed by the sort of tenor of russian media and the last 12 hours, because it would seem to indicate that there is a kind of way being paved forward for a large scale incursion by the russians, and i wonder if you share that? i do, i ve spent entirely too much time watching the kremlin tv news broadcast in the last we. and as much, it s kind of ironic because on the one hand they re growing about the fact about western hysteria, about this war that will never come. that we re all waiting for a russian invasion, and ukraine will never come. at the same time, the ringing alarm bells, and saying there is a genocide happening in the donbass.
you also pointed out, durham, as you pointed out, tried to distance himself from a lot of this reporting. basically rebuking fox news and everything but using the name of the channel itself. his follow-up court filing. it kind of reminded me of someone who was struggling with an addiction who has a relapse, and then you end up going on a weeklong bender, where basically we had this bad online report, that led to a week where trump is under all of this this republican scandal surrounding trump, it became kind of the biggest story of the week on fox. yeah, it was like, full hillary for prison coverage. by the way, that s really helpful, the infiltrate quote, which is the spiciest one, comes from a trump crony kash patel, who is struggling into the pentagon at the last minute, that was laundered into the durham, thing and then run through all the shows, saying that was just kash patel s line. that s kind of thing, by the
against russian separatists forces in eastern ukraine, pipeline attacks, things like that, attacks on civilians, and the need for russia to respond. there are russian military exercises plan for this week, as well, is that correct? there are, yes. one of the other things that came up today is, we ve been waiting for kind of a date for russia s strategic nuclear exercises. usually they run those in the fall, they signaled that they moved him up to right about now. they waited till tonight to announce that, they are doing those tomorrow, and that is going to be kind of a big picture nuclear effort involving multiple branches of their nuclear forces. and vladimir putin, they made very clear, is helping those exercises, he s going to be the one with a suitcase on the red button. i think you can kind of safely interpret that as a bit of a flex right now, because they are still saying that they are open to the policy. as we learned yesterday, in their official response to u.s.
and we fight, we fight like hell. and if you don t fight like hell, you are not going to have a country anymore. we are going to walk down pennsylvania avenue, i love pennsylvania avenue. and we re going to the capital, we re going to try to give our republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don t need any of our help. we are going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. so, let s walk down pennsylvania avenue. it s kind of shocking every time i rewatch that, i got to say. the judge wrote a strongly worded reaction to that speech in that moment particularly, he said it was akin to telling an excited mob that s corners start of the port in front of a court deal or s home. he invited his supporters to washington d.c., after telling them for months the corrupt and spineless politicians were to blame for stealing an election from them, we re told that narrative, when thousands of them descended at the ellipse,