if this michael cohen evidence does stand up and michael cohen does testify to this, this is something that could prove the president colluded. that evidence on its face, if it was supported, would be an impeachable offense. that would be an article of impeachment. no question about it. this is very damning for trump. there is criminal liability here for the president on the horizon with these claims. [laughter] pete: a lot of laughter. steve: rudy giuliani president trump s attorney general. i have been sitting here trying to find collusion as a crime. collusion is not a crime. everything that s been release sod far finds the president absolutely innocent. he didn t do anything wrong. last two tapes are in his favor. wants to do corporate transaction. perfectly legal. the second one he describes in great detail the stormy daniels deal to cuomo and he says the president didn t know about it the president
ainsley: he released them and then you waived them. released them this the press. they have categorically said it wasn t the trump people who leaked it the government didn t have it only one other people that had it. ainsley: excuse me, did you even waive it? because he is innocent. totally innocent. there is more on the tape. pete: it actually exxonner rates. other stuff on the tape as equally as useful to the president and we were hoping we could suck him to getting out the other tapes because they are really really good. the cuomo tape listen. to say everything have you heard last year about the stormy daniels transaction including that cuomo didn t think she was telling the truth because she lied so many times. steve: what about the suggestion from michael cohen that he is willing to say that the president knew about the don jr. meeting with in trump tower with russian lawyer? i think lanny davis may claim he knows about the kennedy assassination and trump is somehow involv
didn t have the money. i paid for it myself. it wasn t a campaign contribution. now, cuomo didn t know it was being recorded which is pretty outrageous. went so far to hide his cell phone and pretend he wasn t recording it lanny davis goes on and said cohen never intended to deceive. if i tell you i m not recording, and i record, haven t i intended to deceive? in fact deceive? that may be a punishable offense for all those morons out there. i m not talking about the audience. i m talking about the idiots they have seen on the screen. ainsley: reports they have been doctored. no doubts one was cut off. take the one that was played numerous times last week. it goes something like this there has got to be financing. the president is very surprised which indicates he didn t know about this transaction. financing. what do you mean financing? cohen says we have got to pay. and he said not by cash. interruption, cohen says, no, no, no. but the and trump says check. immediately it s cut off.
nationally. if he were the to try to run for president in the event that hillary doesn t run, i think he ll are have more trouble with progressives because they feel he made promises and didn t keep them. that s worse than not doing it. you were up close and personal for the clinton years. cuomo was there at the same time. do you see what we talked about there the idea of maybe the politics of the 90s, what democrats had to do to survive. maybe different than it was today. cuomo didn t get the memo. first, speak up for andrew cuomo. go back to what you showed. we get marriage equality in, no. this isn t a nervous, hold back position. that s a big deal about human rights. new york is one of the leaders in the state. he got gun safety legislation done. this year in the budget they did get new york city gets prekindergarten money. again, i see on a number of important progressive goals a guy who is trying to achieve
of fear over people, fear of retribution was worse than anything you ve seen in 20 years? i ve never seen anything like it. let me give you an example. time after time i tried to raise money from people and they d say, look, this guy wants to hurt people. i ll give you up to the $300 threshold where it s not a public record, but i won t give you above that because i don t want my name on an enemy s list. exactly. so i was relegated to raising money in $300 increments quite a bit. people were afraid he would secreto retribution. we ve seen it. do you think there are more ft. lees? well, that s a very good question. and the fact of the matter is, we would not have even known about ft. lee if patrick foy, a new york official appointed by governor cuomo didn t come forward. we would never have nope. that s why i called on the u.s. attorney s office to investigate it, to see if, in fact, there are other places in new jersey that were similarly affected. this is a really good p