that s not somebody like cory booker or julian castro. i wonder what tonight s smaller, less diverse field says to you. is it really about the fact that the average democratic voter says experience will beat trump and that s why we have front runners in their 70s? at the end of the day voters want to beat trump. more than anything, we know that. yes. but it will be about who can inspire those voters. trump voters are certainly inspired in a cult oiish kind o way. democrats need to talk to the heart of the party. i wish we had more time to talk to you, much appreciated, happy holidays. that s going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i m chris jansing. up next, congresswoman debbie dingell of michigan will join my colleague andrea mitchell live